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ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA



 
 
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Old July 1st 07, 05:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
quietguy
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

On Jul 1, 12:21 am, Dallas wrote:
I'm confused.


*You're* confused? Imagine *my* state of mind. This was indeed a
paper invoice from the FBO. Only underlings were on duty late on a
Saturday afternoon; higher-level people will contact me, probably on
Monday, and I'll add a follow-up under this same topic as soon as I
know more. But it seems that this was done via a self-serve pump with
no employee oversight. Watch this thread for further details.

As for sending a credit card to an address other than mine, the
scammer probably used "his" (my) personal address for the address of
record on a card (and bills) to be sent elsewhere (e.g., to a
fictitious company address at a P.O. box); there are credit-card
companies that will do that. Again, I'll post any and all details
here when I get them. The point of this initial post was to alert
people to their vulnerability to ID theft thanks to our wonderful
public servants at the FAA ...

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Old July 1st 07, 08:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
buttman
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

On Jun 30, 9:39 pm, quietguy wrote:
On Jul 1, 12:21 am, Dallas wrote:

I'm confused.


*You're* confused? Imagine *my* state of mind. This was indeed a
paper invoice from the FBO. Only underlings were on duty late on a
Saturday afternoon; higher-level people will contact me, probably on
Monday, and I'll add a follow-up under this same topic as soon as I
know more. But it seems that this was done via a self-serve pump with
no employee oversight. Watch this thread for further details.

As for sending a credit card to an address other than mine, the
scammer probably used "his" (my) personal address for the address of
record on a card (and bills) to be sent elsewhere (e.g., to a
fictitious company address at a P.O. box); there are credit-card
companies that will do that. Again, I'll post any and all details
here when I get them. The point of this initial post was to alert
people to their vulnerability to ID theft thanks to our wonderful
public servants at the FAA ...


I understand you being ****ed off, but you can't pin this on the FAA.
If someone really wanted your address/phone number/tail number, they
could easily get it from a non-FAA source.

I know for a fact that when you apply for a credit card, you have to
supply them with your social security number. If the name on the card
doesn't match the SS given, they'll reject it. This person HAD to get
your SS in some way, and theres no way they could have gotten your SS
from a FAA source.

I suggest you direct your anger in a more constructive direction.

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Old July 1st 07, 12:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
kontiki
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

buttman wrote:


I understand you being ****ed off, but you can't pin this on the FAA.
If someone really wanted your address/phone number/tail number, they
could easily get it from a non-FAA source.


What ever happened to blaming the freaking theif who perpetrated the
crime?
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Old July 1st 07, 02:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, buttman said:
I know for a fact that when you apply for a credit card, you have to
supply them with your social security number. If the name on the card
doesn't match the SS given, they'll reject it. This person HAD to get
your SS in some way, and theres no way they could have gotten your SS
from a FAA source.


And if your pilot license number is still your SS number like it is for
most pilots?


--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
"Guns don't shoot people. Vice Presidents shoot people."
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Old July 1st 07, 06:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
...

And if your pilot license number is still your SS number like it is for
most pilots?


You can get that changed for free - even if you don't care if your SSN is on
your old ticket, this is a good way to get one of the nifty new plastic
tickets with Orville and Wilber's picture on it to replace that faded, ratty
old paper one that has been in your wallet for who-know-how-many-years...

You can even update your hair color to grey or none as applicable :-)

--
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The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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Old July 1st 07, 06:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul Tomblin
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

In a previous article, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
And if your pilot license number is still your SS number like it is for
most pilots?


You can get that changed for free - even if you don't care if your SSN is on
your old ticket, this is a good way to get one of the nifty new plastic


Yeah, that's how I avoided the $30 fee for an address change - I changed
my address *and* requested a new license number.


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platform upon which he was standing collapsed." "I thought he was hanged?"
"That's what I said, isn't it?"
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Old July 1st 07, 06:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:28:31 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in :

$30 fee for an address change


Ah, ATC privatization. Ain't it wonderful?



http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...rmen_services/
Airmen Online Services
Welcome to the Airmen Certification on-line services site. To
utilize the online services, you must first create an account with
the Airmen Certification Branch.

Create an account
Log in to your account to:
change your address
order a replacement certificate
remove SSN as certificate number
request temporary authority to exercise certificate privileges
request verification of certificate privileges



http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...ia/8060-55.pdf
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Old July 2nd 07, 02:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
tom laudato
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:28:31 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in :

$30 fee for an address change


Ah, ATC privatization. Ain't it wonderful?




http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...airmen_service
s/
Airmen Online Services
Welcome to the Airmen Certification on-line services site. To
utilize the online services, you must first create an account with
the Airmen Certification Branch.

Create an account
Log in to your account to:
change your address
order a replacement certificate
remove SSN as certificate number
request temporary authority to exercise certificate privileges
request verification of certificate privileges




http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific.../media/8060-55.
pdf

thanks so much for taking the time to post this info
saved some money and also updated everything
couldn ot find my info until i found that my license does not use the
first digit in my social security number
thanks again tom


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Old July 1st 07, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marty Shapiro
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

(Paul Tomblin) wrote in
:

In a previous article, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow
way d0t com said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
And if your pilot license number is still your SS number like it is
for most pilots?


You can get that changed for free - even if you don't care if your SSN
is on your old ticket, this is a good way to get one of the nifty new
plastic


Yeah, that's how I avoided the $30 fee for an address change - I
changed my address *and* requested a new license number.



$30 fee? Where did you get that from?

The FAA web site still shows $2 for the fee.

From https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/amsr...lacenotice.asp (you need to
sign on to get to this page):


Requesting Replacement Certificates Online

You may request replacement of any or all of your airmen certificates with
a credit card payment of $2 for each certificate requested.

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)
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Old July 1st 07, 08:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA


"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote in message
...
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
...

And if your pilot license number is still your SS number like it is for
most pilots?


You can get that changed for free - even if you don't care if your SSN is
on your old ticket, this is a good way to get one of the nifty new plastic
tickets with Orville and Wilber's picture on it to replace that faded,
ratty old paper one that has been in your wallet for
who-know-how-many-years...

You can even update your hair color to grey or none as applicable :-)


Or your weight....


 




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