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Old July 1st 07, 03:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
quietguy
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On Jul 1, 10:17 am, C J Campbell
wrote:
Pure nonsense. Federal laws limit your liability with stolen cards and
you have no liability at all for a fraudulent card.


Correct -- as I've since found out. I'm learning more by the minute
about ID theft and its repercussions.

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Old July 1st 07, 05:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dennis Johnson
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I'm also confused by this. If the thief paid by credit card at a self-serve
pump, the FBO will get paid by the credit card company, no matter what.

I could understand the credit card company coming after you to pay, but that
doesn't sound like the case here. I'm with the other poster who guessed
that it's a billing error by the FBO and will be resolved on Monday.

Good Luck,
Dennis


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Old July 1st 07, 05:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
quietguy
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On Jul 1, 12:37 pm, "Dennis Johnson" wrote:
I'm also confused by this. If the thief paid by credit card at a self-serve
pump, the FBO will get paid by the credit card company, no matter what.

I could understand the credit card company coming after you to pay, but that
doesn't sound like the case here. I'm with the other poster who guessed
that it's a billing error by the FBO and will be resolved on Monday.

Good Luck,
Dennis


Thanks for the kind wishes. This thing is really chapping my ass.
I'm a retired Air Force officer -- for twenty years my reputation
meant more to me than my life, and now I'm finding out that it still
may. I didn't sleep much last night.

There may not be a credit card company: crime rings manufacture pretty
good plastic blanks, complete with holograms, and they'll emboss and
encode them to your specs at, I'm told, a surprisingly low price --
especially if you're a high-volume customer. A gas-pump is a perfect
place to use such a fake.

I hope to God that this is just some innocent data-entry error. More
later.

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Old July 1st 07, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"quietguy" wrote

There may not be a credit card company: crime rings manufacture pretty
good plastic blanks, complete with holograms, and they'll emboss and
encode them to your specs at, I'm told, a surprisingly low price --
especially if you're a high-volume customer. A gas-pump is a perfect
place to use such a fake.


My sister just had a Mastercard refused, and when she called to check about
it, they told her that they had frozen the account, because someone had just
tried to scan it to withdraw money twice, in Saudi Arabia.

She has no idea where they got her information, to counterfit a card. It
does happen, though.

I hope to God that this is just some innocent data-entry error. More
later.


Good luck, and I have confidence that it will turn out OK, but it will
undoubtedly will take some time to get straightened out.
--
Jim in NC


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Old July 1st 07, 06:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc[_3_]
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It may not have been the FAA- I had a call from a credit card company
regarding some fraudulent charges, and they called the same day! Some guy
bought some stuff in a Walmart in Chicago.

So, it can happen- without reading the whole thread, did you call your
credit card company and dispute the charges?


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Old July 1st 07, 06:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
quietguy
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On Jul 1, 1:11 pm, "Viperdoc" wrote:

without reading the whole thread, did you call your
credit card company and dispute the charges?


I have online access to my credit-card statement and it appears to be
updated nearly in real-time. The charge (from a 20 May transaction)
hasn't appeared. And that, like everything else about this case,
leaves me perplexed: if the FBO submitted a charge to some credit-card
company and they were told the account number was bogus, why just send
me a nice, polite "Past Due -- Please Remit" invoice? And didn't they
see in the FAA database that the N-number wasn't even active yet?
Curiouser and curiouser ...

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Old July 1st 07, 08:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
El Maximo
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"quietguy" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 1, 1:11 pm, "Viperdoc" wrote:

without reading the whole thread, did you call your
credit card company and dispute the charges?


I have online access to my credit-card statement and it appears to be
updated nearly in real-time. The charge (from a 20 May transaction)
hasn't appeared. And that, like everything else about this case,
leaves me perplexed: if the FBO submitted a charge to some credit-card
company and they were told the account number was bogus, why just send
me a nice, polite "Past Due -- Please Remit" invoice?


What alternatives do you suggest?

And didn't they
see in the FAA database that the N-number wasn't even active yet?


I don't know what the record looks like for a not-yet-active N-number.

My money says the whole thing will be cleared up Monday morning when you
talk to the FBO.

Curiouser and curiouser ...



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Old July 1st 07, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"quietguy" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 1, 1:11 pm, "Viperdoc" wrote:

without reading the whole thread, did you call your
credit card company and dispute the charges?


I have online access to my credit-card statement and it appears to be
updated nearly in real-time. The charge (from a 20 May transaction)
hasn't appeared. And that, like everything else about this case,
leaves me perplexed: if the FBO submitted a charge to some credit-card
company and they were told the account number was bogus, why just send
me a nice, polite "Past Due -- Please Remit" invoice?


Wait!! You said the guy opened CC's in your name, but that would not be YOUR
credit card.

Folks: I suspect this "quiet"guy is barfing our his butt.


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Old July 2nd 07, 05:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger (K8RI)
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:38:11 -0700, quietguy
wrote:

On Jul 1, 1:11 pm, "Viperdoc" wrote:

without reading the whole thread, did you call your
credit card company and dispute the charges?


I have online access to my credit-card statement and it appears to be
updated nearly in real-time. The charge (from a 20 May transaction)
hasn't appeared. And that, like everything else about this case,
leaves me perplexed: if the FBO submitted a charge to some credit-card
company and they were told the account number was bogus, why just send
me a nice, polite "Past Due -- Please Remit" invoice? And didn't they
see in the FAA database that the N-number wasn't even active yet?
Curiouser and curiouser ...


Be careful, this could be the snail mail version of the e-mail
phishing scams.


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Old July 1st 07, 08:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"Viperdoc" wrote in message
news
It may not have been the FAA- I had a call from a credit card company
regarding some fraudulent charges, and they called the same day! Some guy
bought some stuff in a Walmart in Chicago.

So, it can happen- without reading the whole thread, did you call your
credit card company and dispute the charges?


He said it was a CC opened in his name by someone else.

This whole story stinks to high heaven.


 




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