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![]() "Bob" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:29:28 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:26:37 +0100, "Neil Hoskins" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message m... On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter" wrote: The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL -- Chappie "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States government." It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion... Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican church is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and National Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer. Military services, Veterans Administration, and probably Public Health Service "real" chaplains are paid by the U.S. government. I have no idea how it is justified. They feed you meds as food for your health. They feed you food as food for your body. They feed you knowledge as food for your intellegence. They feed you spiritual comfort as food for your soul. It's a smorgasboard. Take what ya want. If ya don't like the way the spiritual food is prepared, you don't have to partake. Just because you do not, does not mean that those that enjoy and relish it should be denied. At tax payer expense? I do not have a problem with that. After all, a war zone chaplain needs special training for the special needs of the troops. It does not interfere with the constitution concerning setting up a national religion. It acknowledges that many of our military personnel have a spiritual side that must be fulfilled. They are often hundreds or thousands of miles away from their home congregation. I'm neither Christian, Jew, nor Muslim, nor any "eastern" religion. I dislike others infringing upon my belief, but I cannot tolerate others who infringe on others beliefs. Attending a military religious service is like attending a movie shown by the military: troop morale. Ya don't HAVE to attend a military religious service, just like you don't have to attend a military entertainment movie (versus training films) or USO show. It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy. -- SWIGGY Check out my vids at http://home.comcast.net/~swiggy/index.html |
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:08:01 -0700, Bob wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy. I see now. So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to operate at maximum efficiency? Bob, Quit being a dick. You don't like it, STFU and move on... |
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Bob wrote in news:t94p83lokr1j676injrjvnkj1i22g8l6m8@
4ax.com: On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:30:12 -0400, Casey Tompkins wrote: On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:08:01 -0700, Bob wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy. I see now. So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to operate at maximum efficiency? Bob, Quit being a dick. You don't like it, STFU and move on... Why don't you STFU asshole and don't read it. I was ordered to attend so called christian church services in basic training and told I had to put down a christian religion on my dog tags. I didn't like it then and I don't like paying taxes to support military churches. The churchs want to pay chaplain wages that is fine. Just keep my taxes out of it. where and when was you basic I know in 1974 at Lackland that was not the case You could go to church or not nad you were'nt forced to put down any particular religious affiliation The are chaplins in the military from all faiths. |
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:40:29 -0700, Bob wrote:
Why don't you STFU asshole and don't read it. I was ordered to attend so called christian church services in basic training and told I had to put down a christian religion on my dog tags. I didn't like it then and I don't like paying taxes to support military churches. The churchs want to pay chaplain wages that is fine. Just keep my taxes out of it. Then someone screwed up, big time. I admit that would chafe my ass, too, but I've known too many grunts to think that was "official." Sounds like you got stuck with a real dillweed. Next time really screw with 'em and just declare yourself pagan... ![]() Yes, you can do that... ![]() |
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Casey Tompkins wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:40:29 -0700, Bob wrote: Why don't you STFU asshole and don't read it. I was ordered to attend so called christian church services in basic training and told I had to put down a christian religion on my dog tags. I didn't like it then and I don't like paying taxes to support military churches. The churchs want to pay chaplain wages that is fine. Just keep my taxes out of it. Then someone screwed up, big time. I admit that would chafe my ass, too, but I've known too many grunts to think that was "official." Sounds like you got stuck with a real dillweed. Next time really screw with 'em and just declare yourself pagan... ![]() Yes, you can do that... ![]() When I was in the US Army, 1972-76, I had a couple of friends that were lobbying to have their religion listed as "Wiccan". IIRC they succeeded after a while. I supported the effort even though I am an ordained Presbyterian elder. It is their constitutional right. -- Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians. http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/ |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:29:28 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message m... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:26:37 +0100, "Neil Hoskins" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message news:maql83tdlkm9093ueqj7ipficefonspfbt@4ax. com... On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter" wrote: The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL -- Chappie "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States government." It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion... Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican church is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and National Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer. Military services, Veterans Administration, and probably Public Health Service "real" chaplains are paid by the U.S. government. I have no idea how it is justified. They feed you meds as food for your health. They feed you food as food for your body. They feed you knowledge as food for your intellegence. They feed you spiritual comfort as food for your soul. It's a smorgasboard. Take what ya want. If ya don't like the way the spiritual food is prepared, you don't have to partake. Just because you do not, does not mean that those that enjoy and relish it should be denied. At tax payer expense? I do not have a problem with that. After all, a war zone chaplain needs special training for the special needs of the troops. It does not interfere with the constitution concerning setting up a national religion. It acknowledges that many of our military personnel have a spiritual side that must be fulfilled. They are often hundreds or thousands of miles away from their home congregation. I'm neither Christian, Jew, nor Muslim, nor any "eastern" religion. I dislike others infringing upon my belief, but I cannot tolerate others who infringe on others beliefs. Attending a military religious service is like attending a movie shown by the military: troop morale. Ya don't HAVE to attend a military religious service, just like you don't have to attend a military entertainment movie (versus training films) or USO show. It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy. I see now. So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to operate at maximum efficiency? It would depend on how many were needed, as well as how many volunteers signed up (including civilian) Camp followers have a long tradition working with the military. -- SWIGGY Check out my vids at http://home.comcast.net/~swiggy/index.html |
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