I had 2 DUI's about 6 years ago, is it realistic for me to become a commercial pilot?

writes:

I had 2 Dui's (one when I was 21 and one when I was 22) and I'm now
almost 28. I was working on a degree in communications and I'm at
about the junior level, but my old dream of flying just came back to
me all of the sudden and I thought I would make absolutely sure if
those DUI's will be more than just an obstacle for me.

The important question is: Do you still drink?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

I had 2 Dui's (one when I was 21 and one when I was 22) and I'm now
almost 28. I was working on a degree in communications and I'm at
about the junior level, but my old dream of flying just came back to
me all of the sudden and I thought I would make absolutely sure if
those DUI's will be more than just an obstacle for me.

The important question is: Do you still drink?

Actually, that question is completely irrelevant to the question posed.

To the OP: If you're new to rec.aviation.piloting, go check out google
groups for the posting history of MXSMANIC. You'll find he is an expert on
everything, and rarely correct.

MXSMANIC talks a lot, acts like an expert, but knows little. He is not a
pilot, and in fact has stated that he is afraid to fly.

In a previous article, "El Maximo" said:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
.. .
writes:

I had 2 Dui's (one when I was 21 and one when I was 22) and I'm now
almost 28. I was working on a degree in communications and I'm at
about the junior level, but my old dream of flying just came back to
me all of the sudden and I thought I would make absolutely sure if
those DUI's will be more than just an obstacle for me.

The important question is: Do you still drink?

Actually, that question is completely irrelevant to the question posed.

A stopped clock is right twice a day, and I believe in this case MXMORON
accidentally asked a pertinent question.

A person who didn't learn from the first DUI is either an idiot or an
alcoholic. Now maybe he was just an idiot and grew out of it, or maybe
he's a borderline alcoholic who is likely to drink and drive (or fly)
again. Personally, I would want to see evidence that he doesn't drink
enough to get drunk regularly.

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"If you get upset, emotional, or angry you are not dealing with the
emergency"
-- Rick Grant (quoting RCAF pilot training)

Paul Tomblin writes:

A person who didn't learn from the first DUI is either an idiot or an
alcoholic. Now maybe he was just an idiot and grew out of it, or maybe
he's a borderline alcoholic who is likely to drink and drive (or fly)
again. Personally, I would want to see evidence that he doesn't drink
enough to get drunk regularly.

Exactly. One DUI is strong evidence of alcoholism; two DUIs is virtually
proof of it. So the question is whether or not this person still drinks. If
he still drinks at all, he needs to stay on the ground.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Paul Tomblin writes:

A person who didn't learn from the first DUI is either an idiot or an
alcoholic. Now maybe he was just an idiot and grew out of it, or maybe
he's a borderline alcoholic who is likely to drink and drive (or fly)
again. Personally, I would want to see evidence that he doesn't drink
enough to get drunk regularly.

Exactly. One DUI is strong evidence of alcoholism; two DUIs is virtually
proof of it. So the question is whether or not this person still drinks. If
he still drinks at all, he needs to stay on the ground.

You have a source you can cite to back up this claim?

I personally happen to know someone who was cited twice for
this because she was the designated driver, and the fool she was taking
home left an open bottle of alcohol in her back seat.

Yet, she never had a sip.

BL.
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
I personally happen to know someone who was cited twice for
this because she was the designated driver, and the fool she was taking
home left an open bottle of alcohol in her back seat.

Yet, she never had a sip.



How can you be charged with a DUI with a blood alcohol of zero? She was guilty
of having an open container; not DUI.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 05:03:17 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote:

A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
I personally happen to know someone who was cited twice for
this because she was the designated driver, and the fool she was taking
home left an open bottle of alcohol in her back seat.

Yet, she never had a sip.



How can you be charged with a DUI with a blood alcohol of zero? She was guilty
of having an open container; not DUI.


That has to be total BS, or there is more to the story.

Did this person actually bother to get a real lawyer and fight the
charges?

Were they "convicted" or "cited"?

Were they under the influence of something else, like a prescription
drug, that prevented them from passing a sobriety test?

Twice?

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Paul Tomblin writes:

A person who didn't learn from the first DUI is either an idiot or an
alcoholic. Now maybe he was just an idiot and grew out of it, or
maybe he's a borderline alcoholic who is likely to drink and drive
(or fly) again. Personally, I would want to see evidence that he
doesn't drink enough to get drunk regularly.

Exactly. One DUI is strong evidence of alcoholism; two DUIs is
virtually proof of it. So the question is whether or not this person
still drinks. If he still drinks at all, he needs to stay on the
ground.



Wrong again, fjukkwit


Plenty of pilots who would drive drunk wouldn't even consider getting
near an airplane in that condition

So,

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Bertie

In a previous article, Bertie the Bunyip said:
Plenty of pilots who would drive drunk wouldn't even consider getting
near an airplane in that condition

Anybody who would drive drunk should be restricted to electric wheelchairs
or riding lawnmowers.


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"The ideals we uphold during a crisis define who we are." - Bruce Scheier
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0109.html