dream time

wow! Hit a sweet spot here!

Ok, I dont know why the Ventus isnt on the list, its a dream list and not a dream ship (reaching for flame suit)
Cost is an issue with the Antares, but hey ,we are dreaming.
Safari style touring is the aim, I cant imagine too much trouble in finding a AC socket every couple of days would be a struggle on any safari, even if it means U Hiring a genset on the field. 20m is restrictive for competition, having to compete with open class, although if it handles as well as told, should be good. How is it in light conditions with the "permanent" higher wing loading?
I would admit the JS1 Revelation to be near the hit list, although it looks a tad tight cockpit wise and both it and the company remain unproven.
Both the JS1 and the shark 304 would be a great thing jet assisted, I cant wait for that!

What other options do we come up with for assisting the assist for self launch?
Electric wheel motor?
Clockspring wheel? (maybe it can be wound up!!!)


thanks in advance

bagger

Yes Mal, you can fly it

The reason the Ventus, ASG variants and similar craft are not on a dream list (of mine) is the engine.
2 strokes should be restricted to lawn mowers, simple as that.
The simplicity, weight and size of a turbine is the main drawcard, noise and low-speed (self-launch) power are the downers.
The Antares will improve both in pricing and electrical complexity/longevity if the company is supported - sales would indicate it will be- and we can all see that self-launch will be the way to fly eventually.


still dreaming..............


bagger

bagmaker wrote:
wow! Hit a sweet spot here!

Ok, I dont know why the Ventus isnt on the list, its a dream list and
not a dream ship (reaching for flame suit)
Cost is an issue with the Antares, but hey ,we are dreaming.
Safari style touring is the aim, I cant imagine too much trouble in
finding a AC socket every couple of days would be a struggle on any
safari, even if it means U Hiring a genset on the field. 20m is
restrictive for competition, having to compete with open class,
although if it handles as well as told, should be good. How is it in
light conditions with the "permanent" higher wing loading?
I would admit the JS1 Revelation to be near the hit list, although it
looks a tad tight cockpit wise and both it and the company remain
unproven.
Jonker Company has been around for years, and is very slick. Uys and Attie run a
tight ship, as well as building a not so tight ship. I fit, at 1.86m and 110kg.
So -as for a tight cockpit - that would be "negative mate" if you saw the guys
with built in ballast who have flown and ordered the JS1...
Performance wise it is also up with the rest. The self launcher is not available
yet though all hulls are being built with the necessary structure to allow retrofit.

There will apparently be at least one, probably two JS1s at the GP in Omarama -
hop over and take a personal look.

Both the JS1 and the shark 304 would be a great thing jet assisted, I
cant wait for that!

What other options do we come up with for assisting the assist for self
launch?
Electric wheel motor?
Clockspring wheel? (maybe it can be wound up!!!)


thanks in advance

bagger

Yes Mal, you can fly it

Talking dreams -

Assuming that we are talking a SLMG.

I wonder whether it is not a better idea to go for a two seat self-launcher. Any
experiences?

Pro -
you can take more stuff as baggage if you are alone.
You can take company with if you want to.
The performance should be similar to similar wingspan single seaters.

Con -
Heavier, and more expensive.
More instruments, parachutes etc to maintain.
Harder to sell?
People will pester you about the "wasted" seat when you want to fly alone.

Thoughts?

bagmaker wrote:
wow! Hit a sweet spot here!

Ok, I dont know why the Ventus isnt on the list, its a dream list and
not a dream ship (reaching for flame suit)
Cost is an issue with the Antares, but hey ,we are dreaming.
Safari style touring is the aim, I cant imagine too much trouble in
finding a AC socket every couple of days would be a struggle on any
safari, even if it means U Hiring a genset on the field. 20m is
restrictive for competition, having to compete with open class,
although if it handles as well as told, should be good. How is it in
light conditions with the "permanent" higher wing loading?
I would admit the JS1 Revelation to be near the hit list, although it
looks a tad tight cockpit wise and both it and the company remain
unproven.
Both the JS1 and the shark 304 would be a great thing jet assisted, I
cant wait for that!

What other options do we come up with for assisting the assist for self
launch?
Electric wheel motor?
Clockspring wheel? (maybe it can be wound up!!!)


thanks in advance

bagger

Yes Mal, you can fly it

I dont know why a 2 seater doesnt appeal to me, it just doesnt! The new AS ship sounds like an updated ASH25 which may make it to a dream list although I believe only a single seater does it for me.

The JS1 at Jonkers needs more information out there, listing is deferred until later.

Now a question between the two front runners-
Is the Antares more than twice the aircraft than a 304 shark?
For $100k you could throw a lot of beer towards a lot of wing runners to get you moving, less than 5 points of glide slope between them AND a metre less wingspan to annoy you.

I suppose it is like comparing a daewoo to a BMW, some may point out they both have an engine, 4 wheels and a stereo, why pay the huge price difference? We glider pilots are notoriosly tight with our dollars,

Got to be good sales people over at Lange....



bagger

On Jul 22, 11:22 pm, bagmaker
wrote:
I dont know why a 2 seater doesnt appeal to me, it just doesnt! The new
AS ship sounds like an updated ASH25 which may make it to a dream list
although I believe only a single seater does it for me.

The JS1 at Jonkers needs more information out there, listing is
deferred until later.

Now a question between the two front runners-
Is the Antares more than twice the aircraft than a 304 shark?
For $100k you could throw a lot of beer towards a lot of wing runners
to get you moving, less than 5 points of glide slope between them AND a
metre less wingspan to annoy you.

I suppose it is like comparing a daewoo to a BMW, some may point out
they both have an engine, 4 wheels and a stereo, why pay the huge price
difference? We glider pilots are notoriosly tight with our dollars,

Got to be good sales people over at Lange....

bagger

--
bagmaker

The Antares 20E doesn't have to be just a dream -
Get a partner or two !

Most gliders sit unused a good chunk of the
time anyway, what with people's busy lives.
Sure its more expensive, but you don't need a tug,
won't annoy the neighbors, and won't require crew.

Of course, I'm biased !
Best Regards, Dave "YO"