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Old July 10th 07, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 9, 8:02 pm, "Blueskies" wrote:
"xyzzy" wrote in ooglegroups.com...

For example, there is a restricted airspace over a major military base
near my airport that frequently requires circumnavigation when coming
fhome rom the south VFR, and also a nuke plant just to the east of
the field with similar restrictions.


Nuke plant? Restricted area? Where?


KTTA. Nuke plant about 7 miles to the east, several military bases to
the south (Ft. Bragg, Pope AFB, etc).

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Old July 11th 07, 01:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"xyzzy" wrote in message oups.com...
On Jul 9, 8:02 pm, "Blueskies" wrote:
"xyzzy" wrote in ooglegroups.com...

For example, there is a restricted airspace over a major military base
near my airport that frequently requires circumnavigation when coming
fhome rom the south VFR, and also a nuke plant just to the east of
the field with similar restrictions.


Nuke plant? Restricted area? Where?


KTTA. Nuke plant about 7 miles to the east, several military bases to
the south (Ft. Bragg, Pope AFB, etc).


Don't see any nuke plant restricted area. I don't think there is any such thing. TFR, maybe, and they only say not to
loiter...

I see the Semour MOA to the east and R5311 to the south...


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Old July 11th 07, 02:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
xyzzy
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Default The biggest safety investment in GA is...

On Jul 10, 8:14 pm, "Blueskies" wrote:
"xyzzy" wrote in ooglegroups.com...
On Jul 9, 8:02 pm, "Blueskies" wrote:
"xyzzy" wrote in ooglegroups.com...


For example, there is a restricted airspace over a major military base
near my airport that frequently requires circumnavigation when coming
fhome rom the south VFR, and also a nuke plant just to the east of
the field with similar restrictions.


Nuke plant? Restricted area? Where?


KTTA. Nuke plant about 7 miles to the east, several military bases to
the south (Ft. Bragg, Pope AFB, etc).


Don't see any nuke plant restricted area. I don't think there is any such thing. TFR, maybe, and they only say not to
loiter...


Right, there is no restricted area but we are not to loiter.
Actually, what they tell us on briefings is the same thing they say
about sports events -- when VFR stay at least 3000 feet over it when
within 3 miles, which does make approaching from the east VFR a bit
more complicated. Most pilots who come in from the east VFR make an
effort to stay well south of it, while also worrying about the 2150
foot antenna just south of the river there. Between the plant and the
antenna, the corridor you can use to comfortably approach VFR from the
east is a bit narrow.

I'm much more comfortable coming in IFR and knowing if I fly "too"
close to the plant, they know I'm OK because I'm under ATC control and
following their directions. If conditions are VFR, I usually cancel
when clear of the plant by 3 miles.

I see the Semour MOA to the east and R5311 to the south...


The Seymour MOA isn't that big a deal, the Seymor and Fayetteville
controllers are very good. The R5311 is a pain in the butt when
coming in VFR from the southeast.

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Old July 11th 07, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
JGalban via AviationKB.com
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Default The biggest safety investment in GA is...

xyzzy wrote:

Right, there is no restricted area but we are not to loiter.
Actually, what they tell us on briefings is the same thing they say
about sports events -- when VFR stay at least 3000 feet over it when
within 3 miles, which does make approaching from the east VFR a bit
more complicated.


Do you believe everything "they" tell you? The nuclear TFR is very clear.
There is nothing in it about remaining above 3,000 ft. within 3 miles. Do
not circle or loiter. That's it. If you wish to treat it as a stadium TFR
that's up to you, but it's not.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Old July 11th 07, 11:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Blueskies
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"JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in message news:75047a0ac151e@uwe...
xyzzy wrote:

Right, there is no restricted area but we are not to loiter.
Actually, what they tell us on briefings is the same thing they say
about sports events -- when VFR stay at least 3000 feet over it when
within 3 miles, which does make approaching from the east VFR a bit
more complicated.


Do you believe everything "they" tell you? The nuclear TFR is very clear.
There is nothing in it about remaining above 3,000 ft. within 3 miles. Do
not circle or loiter. That's it. If you wish to treat it as a stadium TFR
that's up to you, but it's not.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)


Yup, the 'stadium tfr' is not as nice. STAY OUT they say...


 




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