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On Jul 9, 8:02 pm, "Blueskies" wrote:
"xyzzy" wrote in ooglegroups.com... For example, there is a restricted airspace over a major military base near my airport that frequently requires circumnavigation when coming fhome rom the south VFR, and also a nuke plant just to the east of the field with similar restrictions. Nuke plant? Restricted area? Where? KTTA. Nuke plant about 7 miles to the east, several military bases to the south (Ft. Bragg, Pope AFB, etc). |
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![]() "xyzzy" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 9, 8:02 pm, "Blueskies" wrote: "xyzzy" wrote in ooglegroups.com... For example, there is a restricted airspace over a major military base near my airport that frequently requires circumnavigation when coming fhome rom the south VFR, and also a nuke plant just to the east of the field with similar restrictions. Nuke plant? Restricted area? Where? KTTA. Nuke plant about 7 miles to the east, several military bases to the south (Ft. Bragg, Pope AFB, etc). Don't see any nuke plant restricted area. I don't think there is any such thing. TFR, maybe, and they only say not to loiter... I see the Semour MOA to the east and R5311 to the south... |
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On Jul 10, 8:14 pm, "Blueskies" wrote:
"xyzzy" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Jul 9, 8:02 pm, "Blueskies" wrote: "xyzzy" wrote in ooglegroups.com... For example, there is a restricted airspace over a major military base near my airport that frequently requires circumnavigation when coming fhome rom the south VFR, and also a nuke plant just to the east of the field with similar restrictions. Nuke plant? Restricted area? Where? KTTA. Nuke plant about 7 miles to the east, several military bases to the south (Ft. Bragg, Pope AFB, etc). Don't see any nuke plant restricted area. I don't think there is any such thing. TFR, maybe, and they only say not to loiter... Right, there is no restricted area but we are not to loiter. Actually, what they tell us on briefings is the same thing they say about sports events -- when VFR stay at least 3000 feet over it when within 3 miles, which does make approaching from the east VFR a bit more complicated. Most pilots who come in from the east VFR make an effort to stay well south of it, while also worrying about the 2150 foot antenna just south of the river there. Between the plant and the antenna, the corridor you can use to comfortably approach VFR from the east is a bit narrow. I'm much more comfortable coming in IFR and knowing if I fly "too" close to the plant, they know I'm OK because I'm under ATC control and following their directions. If conditions are VFR, I usually cancel when clear of the plant by 3 miles. I see the Semour MOA to the east and R5311 to the south... The Seymour MOA isn't that big a deal, the Seymor and Fayetteville controllers are very good. The R5311 is a pain in the butt when coming in VFR from the southeast. |
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xyzzy wrote:
Right, there is no restricted area but we are not to loiter. Actually, what they tell us on briefings is the same thing they say about sports events -- when VFR stay at least 3000 feet over it when within 3 miles, which does make approaching from the east VFR a bit more complicated. Do you believe everything "they" tell you? The nuclear TFR is very clear. There is nothing in it about remaining above 3,000 ft. within 3 miles. Do not circle or loiter. That's it. If you wish to treat it as a stadium TFR that's up to you, but it's not. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200707/1 |
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![]() "JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in message news:75047a0ac151e@uwe... xyzzy wrote: Right, there is no restricted area but we are not to loiter. Actually, what they tell us on briefings is the same thing they say about sports events -- when VFR stay at least 3000 feet over it when within 3 miles, which does make approaching from the east VFR a bit more complicated. Do you believe everything "they" tell you? The nuclear TFR is very clear. There is nothing in it about remaining above 3,000 ft. within 3 miles. Do not circle or loiter. That's it. If you wish to treat it as a stadium TFR that's up to you, but it's not. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) Yup, the 'stadium tfr' is not as nice. STAY OUT they say... |
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