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Old July 14th 07, 12:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Tina
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1: INRs would most likely be done every couple of weeks until the
correct dosages are found, and it's a moving target. Most clinics, I
think, will not be following other values, but I could be wrong about
that. Finger sticks are a lot better than getting stuck in a vein.

2. Warfarin is in fact a rat poison, it causes internal bleeding.
That's why the dosages must be carefully controlled. One would not
like to trade a block induced stroke for a bleeding one, would one?
Having said that, it is commonly used and very effective.,

3: Regarding ablation -- look up radio frequency ablation, you'll
discover it's a way of scarring those parts of the heart, or more
often the large vein leading into it, where the electrical impulses
that are triggering the a-fib are starting. Scars don't conduct the
impulses.

Finally, as I said several times, I am not an expert, he can, as can
you, treat this information as he or you chooses. It may lead to some
questions Chris would like to ask his MD.

Or not.

It's up to him.

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Old July 14th 07, 12:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
RomeoMike
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Tina wrote:
1: INRs would most likely be done every couple of weeks until the
correct dosages are found, and it's a moving target. Most clinics, I
think, will not be following other values, but I could be wrong about
that. Finger sticks are a lot better than getting stuck in a vein.



Did you read what I said about the possibility of other tests being
ordered necessitating a larger blood sample?

2. Warfarin is in fact a rat poison, it causes internal bleeding.
That's why the dosages must be carefully controlled. One would not
like to trade a block induced stroke for a bleeding one, would one?
Having said that, it is commonly used and very effective.,


Coumadin and any other blood thinner can cause internal bleeding as well
and need to be monitored.

3: Regarding ablation -- look up radio frequency ablation, you'll
discover it's a way of scarring those parts of the heart, or more
often the large vein leading into it, where the electrical impulses
that are triggering the a-fib are starting. Scars don't conduct the
impulses.


I don't need to look it up.

Finally, as I said several times, I am not an expert, he can, as can
you, treat this information as he or you chooses. It may lead to some
questions Chris would like to ask his MD.

Or not.

It's up to him.


And I'm sure he is smart enough to know that. But you're sounding a
little like MX when he Googles something he's totally ignorant of, then
comes on here
expounding like a real expert. This isn't amateur night on a medical
newsgroup.

Cheers
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Old July 14th 07, 01:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Montblack
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("RomeoMike" wrote)
This isn't amateur night on a medical newsgroup.



How do you to get to Carnegie Hall?

From the Carnegie Hall website:
"While it takes some [Doctors] a lifetime of practice to get to Carnegie
Hall (as the saying goes), others just have to follow these simple
directions."


Paul-Mont :-)



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Old July 14th 07, 02:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Dave S
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RomeoMike wrote:
.. This isn't amateur night on a medical
newsgroup.

Cheers


Im not an amatuer. Shes correct.
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Old July 14th 07, 04:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
RomeoMike
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Dave S wrote:
RomeoMike wrote:
. This isn't amateur night on a medical
newsgroup.

Cheers


Im not an amatuer. Shes correct.


I'm not an amateur either. I'm basically asking why someone who is not
qualified goes to such lengths to give a dissertation on something this
complicated that has an affect on another person's health. While it was
not necessarily incorrect in a general sense, it may not have been
totally correct when applied to CJ's case.
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Old July 14th 07, 04:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Morgans[_2_]
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"RomeoMike" wrote

I'm not an amateur either. I'm basically asking why someone who is not
qualified goes to such lengths to give a dissertation on something this
complicated that has an affect on another person's health. While it was not
necessarily incorrect in a general sense, it may not have been totally correct
when applied to CJ's case.


Whoa, everyone!

You are all getting ahead of yourself.

He said that he had small veins, based on how hard it is to get a good stick.
He NEVER, repeat NEVER said he was getting a veinipuncture for checking his
levels at this current time.

Quoted from his previous post:

Hah! Not exactly comforting. I got extremely small veins, you know. It
takes 'em four or five tries to get a blood test. :-)

They gave me Warfarin, which is a coumadin derivative.

End Quote
--
Jim in NC

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Old July 14th 07, 04:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
RomeoMike
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Morgans wrote:

"RomeoMike" wrote

I'm not an amateur either. I'm basically asking why someone who is not
qualified goes to such lengths to give a dissertation on something
this complicated that has an affect on another person's health. While
it was not necessarily incorrect in a general sense, it may not have
been totally correct when applied to CJ's case.


Whoa, everyone!

You are all getting ahead of yourself.

He said that he had small veins, based on how hard it is to get a good
stick. He NEVER, repeat NEVER said he was getting a veinipuncture for
checking his levels at this current time.

Quoted from his previous post:

Hah! Not exactly comforting. I got extremely small veins, you know. It
takes 'em four or five tries to get a blood test. :-)

They gave me Warfarin, which is a coumadin derivative.

End Quote


You are correct, but my post that you responded to was referring to the
two dissertations of Tina in general. In another post I gave a
possible reason why a larger blood sample than a finger stick might

be needed, again in response to Tina, who appeared to me to be putting
down a lab that would do a venipuncture for an INR.
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Old July 14th 07, 02:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2007-07-13 20:21:49 -0700, RomeoMike said:



Dave S wrote:
RomeoMike wrote:
. This isn't amateur night on a medical
newsgroup.

Cheers


Im not an amatuer. Shes correct.


I'm not an amateur either. I'm basically asking why someone who is not
qualified goes to such lengths to give a dissertation on something this
complicated that has an affect on another person's health. While it was
not necessarily incorrect in a general sense, it may not have been
totally correct when applied to CJ's case.


Ah, guys. Really. No need to argue about whether people want to be
helpful or not. I will end up following my doctor's advice anyway.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old July 14th 07, 02:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Tina
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Chris, I came across this website that you may find comforting.


http://afanswers.com/treatment.html

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Old July 14th 07, 03:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
karl gruber[_1_]
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007071406000816807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
On 2007-07-13 20:21:49 -0700, RomeoMike
said:

Good luck CJ, you'll fly again.

Just in the past month I've talked with two pilots who have their medical
back after heart surgery. One has a pacemaker and the other had a triple
bypass.

The triple bypass gentleman rebuilds Cubs. He had a Super Cub completed and
was running the engine up when he had his heart attack. He passed out but
the airplane took off, climbed to about 400 feet and then veered over and
crashed. Roger broke most of his bones in the crash...............but called
me about 2 months ago with the good news about his medical. He is selling
his Skywagon. It's a good one. Never been wrecked. I bought it brand new in
1969. After your episode is over, I know you are looking for a plane!

Karl


 




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