OSH Arrivals -- The Kiwi is Ready

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:01:30 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

Okay, so I spent a couple of hours today ("Honest, Mary, the guys
*asked* me to do this!") setting up some OSH arrival scenarios in the
Kiwi, our full-sized flight simulator at our aviation-theme-suite
hotel. (See it he http://alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm)

The first scenario starts you over Ripon, flying down the railroad
tracks toward FISK. You can follow the tracks all the way into a
right downwind for Rwy 27 (or a straight-in for Rwy 9), just like the
real deal.

No mention about traffic...which is probably one of the biggest challenges of
the Ripon arrival. The guy in the pilot seat spends his time staring out the
front window and at the gauges.

Tell ya what... station about five guys around the room 15-20' from the guy in
the Kiwi, with sheets of ordinary typing paper. Every ten seconds, have one
start noisily crunching one into a ball. Have them throw them at the pilot's
head at random intervals. The pilot has to bat it away with one hand (while
flying the Ripon approach) or everyone starts screaming, "MIDAIR! MIDAIR!
MIDAIR!"

Ron Wanttaja

No mention about traffic...which is probably one of the biggest challenges of
the Ripon arrival. The guy in the pilot seat spends his time staring out the
front window and at the gauges.

Tell ya what... station about five guys around the room 15-20' from the guy in
the Kiwi, with sheets of ordinary typing paper. Every ten seconds, have one
start noisily crunching one into a ball. Have them throw them at the pilot's
head at random intervals. The pilot has to bat it away with one hand (while
flying the Ripon approach) or everyone starts screaming, "MIDAIR! MIDAIR!
MIDAIR!"

Ha! That's a good one, and quite accurate.

There *is* a way (in MSFS) to make traffic fly in a line following the
railroad tracks, rather than just randomly generated everywhere, using
a program called "Recorder". I've got the program, but you have to
fly the approach -- and record it, in real time -- for EACH plane you
want to appear as traffic.

Ain't gonna happen between now and Saturday!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ron Wanttaja wrote:
No mention about traffic...which is probably one of the biggest challenges of
the Ripon arrival. The guy in the pilot seat spends his time staring out the
front window and at the gauges.

Sure traffic is a big challenge but if a pilot is *only* looking out
front and at the gauges, IMHO, he's not doing enough or his focus is way
too narrow. I'm scanning everywhere I can see out the front and side
windows and my primary instrument focus is on two things: airspeed and
altitude. Throw in listing to Fisk approach for good measure. This is
all while my brother/co-pilot doing the same things.

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:04:55 -0700, Jack Allison
wrote:

Ron Wanttaja wrote:
No mention about traffic...which is probably one of the biggest challenges of
the Ripon arrival. The guy in the pilot seat spends his time staring out the
front window and at the gauges.

Sure traffic is a big challenge but if a pilot is *only* looking out
front and at the gauges, IMHO, he's not doing enough or his focus is way
too narrow. I'm scanning everywhere I can see out the front and side
windows and my primary instrument focus is on two things: airspeed and
altitude. Throw in listing to Fisk approach for good measure. This is
all while my brother/co-pilot doing the same things.

Note that my reference was to pilots sitting in the Kiwi...which ONLY gives them
a view out the front and of the gauges. Which is why I suggested the random
incoming paper wads....

Ron Wanttaja

Sure traffic is a big challenge but if a pilot is *only* looking out
front and at the gauges, IMHO, he's not doing enough or his focus is way
too narrow.

FYI: At Movie Tuesday all we did was the FISK approach up the railroad
tracks.

It was interesting to watch as people struggled to maintain altitude
and airspeed. Most settled down, after a bit -- but some NEVER got it
stabilized.

Just like the real thing!

It's a challenging and fun approach -- that includes a tower fly-by.
Try THAT at OSH next Sunday!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

It's a challenging and fun approach -- that includes a tower fly-by.
Try THAT at OSH next Sunday!


I'm looking forward to hearing:

Oshkosh Tower: "Blue Cessna cleared to land on green dot"

Blue Cessna: "Unable - Student Pilot"

Jay Honeck wrote:

FYI: At Movie Tuesday all we did was the FISK approach up the railroad
tracks.

It was interesting to watch as people struggled to maintain altitude
and airspeed. Most settled down, after a bit -- but some NEVER got it
stabilized.

Just like the real thing!

Did you hire a local auctioneer to provide the ATC audio simulation?

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Did you hire a local auctioneer to provide the ATC audio simulation?

Nope, but I DO hope to add real ATC next year.

I've seen/heard a link to OSH ATC in the past, somewhere on the
internet. Anyone got a link?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"