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Old July 22nd 07, 12:54 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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So OK -- I can teach college physics and that is a sign I can not do
engineering work ??? As my 12 daughter says -- WHATEVER!!! (Image eyes
rolling up as this is spoken :-)


We don't know that you can teach college physics.


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Old July 22nd 07, 01:19 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Danny Deger
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On Jul 21, 6:54 pm, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote in message

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So OK -- I can teach college physics and that is a sign I can not do
engineering work ??? As my 12 daughter says -- WHATEVER!!! (Image eyes
rolling up as this is spoken :-)


We don't know that you can teach college physics.


Have you looked at my transcript yet? I am waiting for you to post
yours.

Danny Deger
www.dannydeger.net


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Old July 22nd 07, 01:28 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Morgans[_2_]
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"Danny Deger" wrote

Have you looked at my transcript yet? I am waiting for you to post
yours.


You can not tell ONE SINGLE THING about your ability to teach from a
transcript.

Do you understand that? Do you agree with that?

If you did not answer yes to both of those questions, you will most likely
be a ****ty (very ****ty) teacher.

I've seen too many people come in to education as very well educated and
experienced in their fields, thinking that teaching will not be a problem,
and will be easy, and fall flat on their ass.

Humility would go a long way, here.

I predict you have none.
--
Jim in NC


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Old July 22nd 07, 01:37 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Danny Deger
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On Jul 21, 7:28 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
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Humility would go a long way, here.

I predict you have none.
--


But I am the humblest person I have ever met.

Danny Deger

I was an astronaut instructor for 5 years and got rave performance
evaluations. Maybe I will scan them and post them for you.



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Old July 22nd 07, 02:03 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Jim Logajan
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"Morgans" wrote:
Humility would go a long way, here.


That statement in conjunction with the remainder of your post appears to me
to be an amazing (and amusing) self-referential indictment. You write a
series of unqualified statements dripping with certainty and hubris and
follow them with a direction to another to practice humility. That is so...
so... typical of Usenet. :-)

Frankly, I think the world would be better if everyone engaged in humble
hubris. Or is it hubric humility? Drat - it's so humilating to be unable to
articulate my meaning.
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Old July 22nd 07, 02:11 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Danny Deger
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On Jul 21, 7:28 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote

Have you looked at my transcript yet? I am waiting for you to post
yours.


You can not tell ONE SINGLE THING about your ability to teach from a
transcript.

snip

Not one single thing can be told from a transcript? I will grant you
the whole story is not in a transcript, but not ONE SINGLE THING.
Give me a break. I am getting sick.

Danny Deger
www.dannydeger.net

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Old July 22nd 07, 02:46 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Derek Lyons
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Danny Deger wrote:

On Jul 21, 7:28 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote

Have you looked at my transcript yet? I am waiting for you to post
yours.


You can not tell ONE SINGLE THING about your ability to teach from a
transcript.

snip

Not one single thing can be told from a transcript? I will grant you
the whole story is not in a transcript, but not ONE SINGLE THING.
Give me a break. I am getting sick.


Learn to ****ing read.

He didn't say "nothing can be told" he said "nothing can be told about
your ability to teach".

As I said a moment ago, the problem here is operator error - failure
to engage the brain.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
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Old July 22nd 07, 04:08 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Danny Deger
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On Jul 21, 8:46 pm, (Derek Lyons) wrote:
Danny Deger wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:28 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote


Have you looked at my transcript yet? I am waiting for you to post
yours.


You can not tell ONE SINGLE THING about your ability to teach from a
transcript.


snip


Not one single thing can be told from a transcript? I will grant you
the whole story is not in a transcript, but not ONE SINGLE THING.
Give me a break. I am getting sick.


Learn to ****ing read.

He didn't say "nothing can be told" he said "nothing can be told about
your ability to teach".

As I said a moment ago, the problem here is operator error - failure
to engage the brain.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL


I did read the post, and I stand by the statement it is ridiculous to
state a single thing about teaching ability can not be gleaned from a
transcript. Intelligence and education are necessary to be a teacher
and those traits show up on a transcript.

Danny Deger

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Old July 22nd 07, 05:40 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Morgans[_2_]
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"Danny Deger" wrote

I did read the post, and I stand by the statement it is ridiculous to
state a single thing about teaching ability can not be gleaned from a
transcript. Intelligence and education are necessary to be a teacher
and those traits show up on a transcript.


Do some research.

Some of the most intelligent people in the world have NO ability to teach.
None.

Seems that everything is so natural to them, they can not understand why
their students don't understand what is being shown to them.

This is FACT.

I'm done here. Amuse yourself as you see fit.
--
Jim in NC


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Old July 22nd 07, 05:28 AM posted to alt.fiction.original,rec.aviation.piloting,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Jim Logajan
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(Derek Lyons) wrote:
He didn't say "nothing can be told" he said "nothing can be told about
your ability to teach".


This is all so pointlessly confrontational and typical Usenet arguing
wherein rigor is applied when it serves a personal end and tossed aside
when it doesn't. You know that rigorous logic says that nothing can be
foretold about the sun rising tomorrow from the fact that the sun rose this
morning. But so what? Humans have been applying heuristic rules for ages to
try to predict the future - and still are.

So somebody who gets great grades is a reasonable heuristic for predicting
their success at teaching. Of course it's not perfect - but it sure beats
hiring dopes to teach who flunked all their courses.

As it stands, you and Morgans are fundamentally claiming that the following
three numbers are identical:

A) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with very high grade point averages.

B) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with average grade point averages.

C) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with zero grade point averages.

Anyone care to put real money behind their silly Usenet bravado and
needless confrontational style of "debate"? If so I'm willing to bet money
the above three numbers will be very different.
 




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