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On Jul 21, 7:28 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote

Have you looked at my transcript yet? I am waiting for you to post
yours.

You can not tell ONE SINGLE THING about your ability to teach from a
transcript.

snip

Not one single thing can be told from a transcript? I will grant you
the whole story is not in a transcript, but not ONE SINGLE THING.
Give me a break. I am getting sick.

Danny Deger
www.dannydeger.net

Danny Deger wrote:

On Jul 21, 7:28 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote

Have you looked at my transcript yet? I am waiting for you to post
yours.

You can not tell ONE SINGLE THING about your ability to teach from a
transcript.

snip

Not one single thing can be told from a transcript? I will grant you
the whole story is not in a transcript, but not ONE SINGLE THING.
Give me a break. I am getting sick.

Learn to ****ing read.

He didn't say "nothing can be told" he said "nothing can be told about
your ability to teach".

As I said a moment ago, the problem here is operator error - failure
to engage the brain.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

On Jul 21, 8:46 pm, (Derek Lyons) wrote:
Danny Deger wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:28 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote

Have you looked at my transcript yet? I am waiting for you to post
yours.

You can not tell ONE SINGLE THING about your ability to teach from a
transcript.

snip

Not one single thing can be told from a transcript? I will grant you
the whole story is not in a transcript, but not ONE SINGLE THING.
Give me a break. I am getting sick.

Learn to ****ing read.

He didn't say "nothing can be told" he said "nothing can be told about
your ability to teach".

As I said a moment ago, the problem here is operator error - failure
to engage the brain.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

I did read the post, and I stand by the statement it is ridiculous to
state a single thing about teaching ability can not be gleaned from a
transcript. Intelligence and education are necessary to be a teacher
and those traits show up on a transcript.

Danny Deger

"Danny Deger" wrote

I did read the post, and I stand by the statement it is ridiculous to
state a single thing about teaching ability can not be gleaned from a
transcript. Intelligence and education are necessary to be a teacher
and those traits show up on a transcript.

Do some research.

Some of the most intelligent people in the world have NO ability to teach.
None.

Seems that everything is so natural to them, they can not understand why
their students don't understand what is being shown to them.

This is FACT.

I'm done here. Amuse yourself as you see fit.
--
Jim in NC

On Jul 21, 11:40 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote



I did read the post, and I stand by the statement it is ridiculous to
state a single thing about teaching ability can not be gleaned from a
transcript. Intelligence and education are necessary to be a teacher
and those traits show up on a transcript.

Do some research.

Some of the most intelligent people in the world have NO ability to teach.
None.

Seems that everything is so natural to them, they can not understand why
their students don't understand what is being shown to them.

This is FACT.

I'm done here. Amuse yourself as you see fit.
--
Jim in NC

I agree. Talking about grade point averages and ability to teach gets
away from the topic of this thread. We can all agree some very smart
teachers are lousy instructors, but we can also agree you need some
intelligence and some education to teach a technical subject.

Danny Deger

(Derek Lyons) wrote:
He didn't say "nothing can be told" he said "nothing can be told about
your ability to teach".

This is all so pointlessly confrontational and typical Usenet arguing
wherein rigor is applied when it serves a personal end and tossed aside
when it doesn't. You know that rigorous logic says that nothing can be
foretold about the sun rising tomorrow from the fact that the sun rose this
morning. But so what? Humans have been applying heuristic rules for ages to
try to predict the future - and still are.

So somebody who gets great grades is a reasonable heuristic for predicting
their success at teaching. Of course it's not perfect - but it sure beats
hiring dopes to teach who flunked all their courses.

As it stands, you and Morgans are fundamentally claiming that the following
three numbers are identical:

A) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with very high grade point averages.

B) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with average grade point averages.

C) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with zero grade point averages.

Anyone care to put real money behind their silly Usenet bravado and
needless confrontational style of "debate"? If so I'm willing to bet money
the above three numbers will be very different.

On Jul 21, 11:28 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
(Derek Lyons) wrote:
He didn't say "nothing can be told" he said "nothing can be told about
your ability to teach".

This is all so pointlessly confrontational and typical Usenet arguing
wherein rigor is applied when it serves a personal end and tossed aside
when it doesn't. You know that rigorous logic says that nothing can be
foretold about the sun rising tomorrow from the fact that the sun rose this
morning. But so what? Humans have been applying heuristic rules for ages to
try to predict the future - and still are.

So somebody who gets great grades is a reasonable heuristic for predicting
their success at teaching. Of course it's not perfect - but it sure beats
hiring dopes to teach who flunked all their courses.

As it stands, you and Morgans are fundamentally claiming that the following
three numbers are identical:

A) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with very high grade point averages.

B) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with average grade point averages.

C) The grade point average of students taught by instructors who passed
their own courses with zero grade point averages.

Anyone care to put real money behind their silly Usenet bravado and
needless confrontational style of "debate"? If so I'm willing to bet money
the above three numbers will be very different.

Thank you, I agree. This arguing about grade point averages and
ability to teach is simply thread divergence from the topic on hand.
Does my documentation support my allegations of NASA management
misconduct?

Danny Deger
www.dannydeger.net

Danny Deger wrote:
Does my documentation support my allegations of NASA management
misconduct?

I don't know as I haven't read through it all. You also have to realize
that to do a proper judgement I'd have to see what material the other
parties present to support their sides. But even if I did read it all and
agreed with you, I'm not sure what that would accomplish.

I'm just someone who reads rec.aviation.piloting because I have an interest
in the subject (side note: I do not normally read any of the other groups
this is being crossposted to.) Reading through your material sounds like a
lot of work - more than I care to do I'm afraid. As I get older I've
learned that it isn't possible to join in every cause.

I will say that the documentation you've provided supports the contention
that you are obviously very bright and technically astute. Sorry you've had
such a tough run of it.

On Jul 22, 12:05 am, Jim Logajan wrote:
Danny Deger wrote:
Does my documentation support my allegations of NASA management
misconduct?

I don't know as I haven't read through it all. You also have to realize
that to do a proper judgement I'd have to see what material the other
parties present to support their sides. But even if I did read it all and
agreed with you, I'm not sure what that would accomplish.

I'm just someone who reads rec.aviation.piloting because I have an interest
in the subject (side note: I do not normally read any of the other groups
this is being crossposted to.) Reading through your material sounds like a
lot of work - more than I care to do I'm afraid. As I get older I've
learned that it isn't possible to join in every cause.

I will say that the documentation you've provided supports the contention
that you are obviously very bright and technically astute. Sorry you've had
such a tough run of it.

If you like to read good flying stories, download and read my book --
or at least the first half of it. I did my best to make it read like
a techno-thriller about modern fighter combat. I also have good
stories about flying light aircraft.

Thanks for taking the time to post a message.

Danny Deger
www.dannydeger.net

Jim Logajan wrote:

(Derek Lyons) wrote:
He didn't say "nothing can be told" he said "nothing can be told about
your ability to teach".

This is all so pointlessly confrontational and typical Usenet arguing
wherein rigor is applied when it serves a personal end and tossed aside
when it doesn't.

ROTFL.

It's very amusing when you accuse me of that, and then turn around and
indulge in it yourself.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL