Houston, You Have a Problem

On Jul 22, 1:27 pm, wrote:
From Danny Dot:
On Jul 22, 11:10 am, wrote:
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Here's a direct quote from your text: "I made it a point to insult
management at every opportunity I could. I knew this put me at risk."

You declared war against the enemy you perceived, and now you are
crying because they crushed you.

You understand the situation exactly. They did crush me but violated
many laws to do it. Lying to local officials and being part of
denying due process is not something a government agency should do. I
am now in the process of fighting back by exposing their gross
misconduct.

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You chose to fight the storm, and appear surprised to find that NASA
is stronger than you.

Surprise is not one of my emotions. Anger yes, surprise no. When I
was locked up in 1999, I knew I had declared open warfare with the
Johnson Space Center Director, George Abbey. Part of me was quite
impressed that he could silence me by having me locked up. I knew my
lockup was illegal, and I knew the local authorities would tend to
support Abbey over me. I was afraid I could not even trust the local
judges. I was right. Documentation now proves a local judge was
behaving improperly. No, I am not surprised NASA is stronger than
me. BUT I AM MAD AS HELL AND I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE :-)

I am not addressing the right or wrong of your
situation. Justice is a human concept. It relies on humans to uphold
it. If those in authority and power do not share your perspective on
justice, then there can be no expectation for it to be upheld. Your
efforts toward justice will be wasted.

You may be right. In fact you are probably right. My only hope for
justice is to get my story, complete with documentation, exposed in
the press. I have found that the people in power support the other
people in power.

I won't say that it was wrong of your flight lead to fly an aggressive
final turn. Good pilots can get away with that. I won't say that it
was wrong of you to follow your lead through that turn. A good
wingman can get away with that too. My suggestion to you was to
rethink your view that your flight lead was wrong. That your flight
lead tried to kill you.

Where in the heck did I say he wanted to kill me? Please don't put
words in my mouth. I only said he wanted to embarrass me by flying a
turn tighter than I could. He did not know, and I did not know the
consequences of flying into his jet wash. If I had known, I certainly
would not have. If he had known, he certainly would not have flown
such a tight turn that I had to follow.

But I thank you for not throwing random insults at me in your posts.
I enjoyed reading actually. You have good insight on the situation,

My bad about that part of your final turn story. I remember reading
somewhere in your story about someone trying to kill you and I must
have gotten that crossed.


No one has ever tried to kill me. I never thought that and I never
said it in my book. Maybe you thought based on what has happened to
me my life is at risk :-) I don't think so. I think NASA draws the
line at lying to local officials and working with a judge to stop due
process under the law. I really would be surprise if NASA has a hit
squad :-)

I jumped in on this thread in hopes that I could add something that
helps. I'm sure that there are lots of people who are faced with
problems of this type. Not much fun.

Thanks -- it is not much fun. And being bullied at work is very
common. It happens all the time. Europe is much further along than
the US in stopping it. Maybe if my story get out, something will
happen in this country.

~ CT

From Danny Dot:
My suggestion to you was to
rethink your view that your flight lead was wrong. That your flight
lead tried to kill you.

Where in the heck did I say he wanted to kill me? Please don't put
words in my mouth. I only said he wanted to embarrass me by flying a
turn tighter than I could. He did not know, and I did not know the
consequences of flying into his jet wash. If I had known, I certainly
would not have. If he had known, he certainly would not have flown
such a tight turn that I had to follow.

But I thank you for not throwing random insults at me in your posts.
I enjoyed reading actually. You have good insight on the situation,

My bad about that part of your final turn story. I remember reading
somewhere in your story about someone trying to kill you and I must
have gotten that crossed.

No one has ever tried to kill me. I never thought that and I never
said it in my book. Maybe you thought based on what has happened to
me my life is at risk :-) I don't think so. I think NASA draws the
line at lying to local officials and working with a judge to stop due
process under the law. I really would be surprise if NASA has a hit
squad :-)

"One day this almost killed me."
It must have been this statement that I mistook as your perception of
a willful act.

Once again, my mistake for taking the out-to-get-me message too far
here.

I jumped in on this thread in hopes that I could add something that
helps. I'm sure that there are lots of people who are faced with
problems of this type. Not much fun.

Thanks -- it is not much fun. And being bullied at work is very
common. It happens all the time. Europe is much further along than
the US in stopping it. Maybe if my story get out, something will
happen in this country.

It would certainly be great if people treat each other with respect in
the workplace. If you could write a book toward that end that didn't
express hostility, vindictiveness or pity then I would support that.

As it is, one possible effect of your book is that no one will want to
take a management position in fear of having to deal with situations
of this type.


~ CT