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Old July 27th 07, 08:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Why would market forces drive out the Non-GPS phones? Most people
don't use the GPS chip in the phone. The requirement for location is
there because the feds said it needed to be there and most people
who do care just want 911 to know where they are. They could care
less how 911 knows where they are.


You totally missed the point.

Almost no one, as in regular people, is going to use the GPS chip in
the phone for anything. If phones start getting a GPS display, that
will change. I wouldn't think it will take long for that to happen.

The point is a big portion of the major carriers are going with GPS
technology.

To get on their network you will need a GPS phone. When your current
none-GPS phone dies, you will need to replace it with a GPS phone.

Even if you go with AT&T, if you want the ability to roam on other
carriers, you will need a GPS phone.



Do you have a cite for your assertion that AT&T non-gps phones won't be able
to roam on gps enabled systems?


As time passes, the MAKERS of phones are more likely to make one
type of phone that contains both the GPS chip and the triangulation
stuff simply because it will be easier to support one manufacturing
line rather than two.


You might be right there but AT&T is a pretty big client and if they, for
whatever reason, don't want the chip I'd be willing to bet that they have
the pull to get the phones without the chip.


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Old July 27th 07, 08:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
wrote:

Why would market forces drive out the Non-GPS phones? Most people
don't use the GPS chip in the phone. The requirement for location is
there because the feds said it needed to be there and most people
who do care just want 911 to know where they are. They could care
less how 911 knows where they are.


You totally missed the point.

Almost no one, as in regular people, is going to use the GPS chip in
the phone for anything. If phones start getting a GPS display, that
will change. I wouldn't think it will take long for that to happen.

The point is a big portion of the major carriers are going with GPS
technology.

To get on their network you will need a GPS phone. When your current
none-GPS phone dies, you will need to replace it with a GPS phone.

Even if you go with AT&T, if you want the ability to roam on other
carriers, you will need a GPS phone.


Do you have a cite for your assertion that AT&T non-gps phones won't be able
to roam on gps enabled systems?


Not offhand, but it is my understanding that after some cutoff date,
you won't be able to use a none-GPS phone on a GPS network at all.

You are free to research this at
http://www.fcc.gov and show me that
I am wrong about this.

As time passes, the MAKERS of phones are more likely to make one
type of phone that contains both the GPS chip and the triangulation
stuff simply because it will be easier to support one manufacturing
line rather than two.


You might be right there but AT&T is a pretty big client and if they, for
whatever reason, don't want the chip I'd be willing to bet that they have
the pull to get the phones without the chip.


My bet is they'll use whatever is available at a reasonable price and
will care less if the phone has features unused on their network.


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Old July 27th 07, 09:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Not offhand, but it is my understanding that after some cutoff date,
you won't be able to use a none-GPS phone on a GPS network at all.

You are free to research this at
http://www.fcc.gov and show me that
I am wrong about this.



Come on Jim you know the rules. If you make a statement it's up to you to
provide the cite.


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Old July 27th 07, 10:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
wrote:

Not offhand, but it is my understanding that after some cutoff date,
you won't be able to use a none-GPS phone on a GPS network at all.

You are free to research this at
http://www.fcc.gov and show me that
I am wrong about this.



Come on Jim you know the rules. If you make a statement it's up to you to
provide the cite.


In the words of Bud Abbott, I'm a bad boy.

Third base.

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Old July 28th 07, 12:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote in :

Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
wrote:

Not offhand, but it is my understanding that after some cutoff
date, you won't be able to use a none-GPS phone on a GPS network at
all.

You are free to research this at
http://www.fcc.gov and show me
that I am wrong about this.



Come on Jim you know the rules. If you make a statement it's up to
you to provide the cite.


In the words of Bud Abbott, I'm a bad boy.

Third base.


That was Lou Costello!.

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Old July 28th 07, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Marty Shapiro wrote:
wrote in :


Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
wrote:

Not offhand, but it is my understanding that after some cutoff
date, you won't be able to use a none-GPS phone on a GPS network at
all.

You are free to research this at
http://www.fcc.gov and show me
that I am wrong about this.



Come on Jim you know the rules. If you make a statement it's up to
you to provide the cite.


In the words of Bud Abbott, I'm a bad boy.

Third base.


That was Lou Costello!.


Doh!


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Old July 27th 07, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
they have
the pull to get the phones without the chip.



Do you have a cite for your assertion?

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Old July 28th 07, 12:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jules wrote:


Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
they have
the pull to get the phones without the chip.



Do you have a cite for your assertion?


Low blow.

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Old July 30th 07, 03:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jules wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
they have
the pull to get the phones without the chip.



Do you have a cite for your assertion?


Of course I do.

http://www.tnstelecoms.com/press-3-13-06.html


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Old July 30th 07, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
Jules wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
they have
the pull to get the phones without the chip.



Do you have a cite for your assertion?


Of course I do.


http://www.tnstelecoms.com/press-3-13-06.html


Which shows AT&T has 30% of the wireless market in the US.

The US wireless market is a small and declining part of the world
wireless market as countries without the wired infrastructure are
finding it is a lot cheaper to go wireless then it is to string
and maintain wires throughout every town and village.

I suppose Cho's dim-sum and cell phone factory might be persuaded
to run off a small lot of AT&T special phones once in a while.

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