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Brooks writes "Paul Austin" wrote in message . .. Britain has done development on large capacitor banks that pass very large currents through shaped charge jets hitting an armored vehicle, melting the jet before it can hit the inner armo(u)r. They say that scaled up versions might be able to do the same to long-rod penetrators. "Melt the jet"? OFCS, that jet is already at extremely high temperature, courtesy of its being shoved inside out and pushed into a "jet" moving at thousands of meters per second. "Melting" it does nothing to change its mass, and it is the combination of that mass and attendant velocity that makes a shaped charge (read up on the Munroe Effect) work. It's an electrical effect. Dump a lot of electricity into the copper jet, and you have current and motion: which produces a powerful magnetic field, so the jet repels itself and flies apart. Or that's the way my physics says it ought to work. Works quite nicely in a carefully-controlled experiment. Might even be useful in a fielded vehicle eventually. Won't arrive tomorrow, though. http://www.dstl.gov.uk/pr/press/pr2002/01-07-02.htm -- When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. W S Churchill Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:30:29 +0100, Paul J. Adam wrote:
It's an electrical effect. Dump a lot of electricity into the copper jet, and you have current and motion: which produces a powerful magnetic field, so the jet repels itself and flies apart. Or that's the way my physics says it ought to work. Works quite nicely in a carefully-controlled experiment. Might even be useful in a fielded vehicle eventually. Maybe. I can't help but feel it'd be a lot simpler just to put a 1 mm metal plate a foot or so away from the main armour (and mayby use the resulting cavity as storage space). -- "It's easier to find people online who openly support the KKK than people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia |
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ...
In message , Kevin Brooks writes "Paul Austin" wrote in message . .. Britain has done development on large capacitor banks that pass very large currents through shaped charge jets hitting an armored vehicle, melting the jet before it can hit the inner armo(u)r. They say that scaled up versions might be able to do the same to long-rod penetrators. "Melt the jet"? OFCS, that jet is already at extremely high temperature, courtesy of its being shoved inside out and pushed into a "jet" moving at thousands of meters per second. "Melting" it does nothing to change its mass, and it is the combination of that mass and attendant velocity that makes a shaped charge (read up on the Munroe Effect) work. It's an electrical effect. Dump a lot of electricity into the copper jet, and you have current and motion: which produces a powerful magnetic field, so the jet repels itself and flies apart. Or that's the way my physics says it ought to work. Works quite nicely in a carefully-controlled experiment. Might even be useful in a fielded vehicle eventually. Won't arrive tomorrow, though. http://www.dstl.gov.uk/pr/press/pr2002/01-07-02.htm Using an EM field to distort/dissipate the jet I can buy; I was taking exception to the idea of "melting" it (it is pretty much "melted" at the point the liner is inverted by the explosive filler, and in fact behaves as a liquid at this point). God only knows what the effect of that kind of EM field will have on the crew, much less all of that nifty solid-state equipment, not to mention the difficulty in discharging the capacitors at *exactly* the right instant (I'd guess the tolerence would be measured in much less than a millisecond, as that jet will cover what, at least 5 or so meters in that MS?). Brooks |
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![]() "Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ... In message , Kevin Brooks writes "Paul Austin" wrote in message . .. Britain has done development on large capacitor banks that pass very large currents through shaped charge jets hitting an armored vehicle, melting the jet before it can hit the inner armo(u)r. They say that scaled up versions might be able to do the same to long-rod penetrators. "Melt the jet"? OFCS, that jet is already at extremely high temperature, courtesy of its being shoved inside out and pushed into a "jet" moving at thousands of meters per second. "Melting" it does nothing to change its mass, and it is the combination of that mass and attendant velocity that makes a shaped charge (read up on the Munroe Effect) work. Well, the last I heard there were still people disputing the state of matter the copper was at: something about etched patterns still existing in the mass recovered after the blast... It's an electrical effect. Dump a lot of electricity into the copper jet, and you have current and motion: which produces a powerful magnetic field, so the jet repels itself and flies apart. Or that's the way my physics says it ought to work. Heck, throw that kind of charge into the thing and electro-static repulsion might be enough. |
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