Friday 072707 in Oshkosh Pt 1 - the Raptor [01/30] - "F22 lifting off 18 after very short takeoff roll.jpg" yEnc (0/1)

AWem wrote in news:11i6c3hr3vtunjd9k46h52p6d2maa1t8c4@
4ax.com:

How on Earth do people (?) find themselves with so much time on their
hands (not to mention supposedly dial-up dollars) to continually post
so much - and so unnecessarily rudely - about so little? If this was a
moderated group, they'd have been chucked off ages ago just for that.

Baffled. Truly baffled.

andy
It's called broadband
It comes in two flavor DSL and cable
Priced from $25 us and up dependent on server and speed
Secondly many of the massposter use newsreaders that automate the posting
process.
And as to people opining on this and thatit takes no more than time to type
it.
The biggest source of ill will here seems to be between those who attack
the posters who you a compression program called yEnc and those who post
with it and/or can read it.

Hope that little explanation helps

So far, Andrew is ahead in the war of words, if you consider volume. (word
count, not dB)
,
Anti yEnc: Not missing what you can't see is kinda like not answering the back
doorbell because you don't like the sound. (look a gift horse in the mouth)
Maybe the newbies can't decode yEnc. They should not be urged to expand their
capabilities. Three newsreaders that don't decode yEnc. Wise choice. How
many do you needed?
,
It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness. Then, if you don't
like what you see, extinguish the candle, but hold harmless the one that
furnished it.
,
Pro yEnc: Old dog, new trick - horse to water come to mind. (what's left of
it)
,
The anti and and pro yEncers are a continual source of amusement. To see
folks banging their heads against opposite sides of the same brick wall, and
they still haven't figured out that the pain will fade if they stop. Everyone
is entitled to their own opinion, but nobody has the right to stifle others'.
,
I have no problem with yEnc. I have a problem with those that think I should.
,
DS

What a sensible statement! Whilst all this hubris has been happening, I
quietly downloaded the free yEnc thing that works just fine and I've been
enjoying some great Oshkosh stuff that I surely would have otherwise
missed...

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:11:32 -0400, "Boomerang"
wrote:

What a sensible statement! Whilst all this hubris has been happening, I
quietly downloaded the free yEnc thing that works just fine and I've been
enjoying some great Oshkosh stuff that I surely would have otherwise
missed...


Assuming you meant my pix, thanks for the kind words!

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:19:09 GMT, (DS) wrote:

I have no problem with yEnc. I have a problem with those that think I should.
,

LOL. Wish I had said that.

My second post on this subject.....
Flame suit on :-)
WHAT is so flippen difficult in reading/opening yenc files?
Yes, I don't particularly like them, but it is SO easy to download and save
them in OE, and then decoding with 3rd party software.
And this from about six years back already, when I started net surfing.
Heck, anything that saves bandwidth in this retard country of mine, is a
bonus.
Maybe, just maybe, slow down on the ranting and raving, and discreetly ask
for help, draws less attention to one's shortcomings, I learnt that the
embarrassing way :-)

Buffy

"G.Kuhn" wrote in message
...
My second post on this subject.....
Flame suit on :-)
WHAT is so flippen difficult in reading/opening yenc files?
Yes, I don't particularly like them, but it is SO easy to download and
save them in OE, and then decoding with 3rd party software.
And this from about six years back already, when I started net surfing.
Heck, anything that saves bandwidth in this retard country of mine, is a
bonus.
Maybe, just maybe, slow down on the ranting and raving, and discreetly ask
for help, draws less attention to one's shortcomings, I learnt that the
embarrassing way :-)

Buffy


Hi, Buffy !

Perhaps I can explain the problem to you since you don't seem to be of the
same brash ilk as the bombastic group of kids who charged into this group
and exiled our most prolific and congenial long-term posters.

There is nothing wrong with yEnc. Mr. Noise explained it very well - if a
person is a user of many newsgroups and downloads media files, e-books and
other large files then something like yEnc is nearly mandatory. On the
other hand, this is a still picture group where the file sizes rarely exceed
300KB. A file that size will download with yEnc in about 10 seconds on a
DSL connection, around 12 seconds without yEnc. Two seconds may be an
eternity for an impetuous youngster but it is totally insignificant in this
newsgroup. Step up to cable service and differences in D/L time become
almost immeasurable.

With that said, the real reason(s) for the regular members here wanting to
ban yEnc is that some are TOO OLD to understand how to install ANY kind of
software on their computers. Some are (or were, before they bailed) barely
able to use email and read this newsgroup. So, should we just tell them to
fuddle off or upgrade? I doubt if the invaders would tell their own
grandparents to F-off but for some reason they don't hesitate to tell those
here to do the same.

This is a global group of people who share the same love for aviation
photos. The older members have provided a wealth of historical information
regarding vintage aircraft, their experiences in various wars, and have been
most generous by providing priceless information of a historical nature.
Some of these same people are embarrassed to reveal a lack of skill using a
computer and will simply leave to avoid the insolence of some snot-nosed kid
who tells them to get out of the dark ages and upgrade to *their*
standards.

This is why a large amount of time was invested here to hammer out a usage
guideline that would be agreeable to all regardless of their computer
skills.

Is this too difficult to understand?

gdp

Don...as a geezer fully capable in yEnc and a dozen other equally
unpronounceable software applications, I think this message of yours is an
absolute masterpiece of compassion, consideration and common sense. Nicely
done!!

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:18:33 -0400, "Boomerang"
wrote:

Don...as a geezer fully capable in yEnc and a dozen other equally
unpronounceable software applications, I think this message of yours is an
absolute masterpiece of compassion, consideration and common sense. Nicely
done!!


Mmmm. Well, I am a 70 yo geezer who subscribes to a very good news
reader and I can't tell the difference between yenc and jpeg. I don't
even look at the format. My only complaint is the incessant whining
about yenc. No one is making anyone switch to yenc. If you can not
open it, so be it. Continue to open those pics you can see. As far
as wasted bandwidth, well, threads like this and all the previous
****ing contests don't really help, do they?

Dave

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:18:33 -0400, "Boomerang"
wrote:

Don...as a geezer fully capable in yEnc and a dozen other equally
unpronounceable software applications, I think this message of yours is an
absolute masterpiece of compassion, consideration and common sense.
Nicely
done!!


Mmmm. Well, I am a 70 yo geezer who subscribes to a very good news
reader and I can't tell the difference between yenc and jpeg. I don't
even look at the format. My only complaint is the incessant whining
about yenc. No one is making anyone switch to yenc. If you can not
open it, so be it. Continue to open those pics you can see. As far
as wasted bandwidth, well, threads like this and all the previous
****ing contests don't really help, do they?

Dave


Dave,

I really regret that you don't understand what I was saying. Surely at your
age (not too far from mine BTW), you have peers who struggle with computers.
Are you advocating that we just leave them behind like the others are
insisting we do?

At our ages, you and I are an exception - not a norm.

gdp