Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released

"Peter Dohm" wrote

The *really* hard part, at least for me, will be to remember to look this
up
after the final report is released. OTOH, there may be a new thread
started
to serve as a reminder.

I'm countin' on youse guys.

Jeez-o-Pete! Where ya'll from, talkin' like'at? g

But seriously - from this group, can you imagine that a new thread would NOT
be started when the report is out?

I can't! small smiley here, laughing at ourselves
--
Jim in NC

But seriously - from this group, can you imagine that a new thread would
NOT
be started when the report is out?

Then can I opin on what I saw with my own eyes?

Jeff wrote:
But seriously - from this group, can you imagine that a new thread would
NOT
be started when the report is out?

Then can I opin on what I saw with my own eyes?


Eyewitness accounts of plane crashes are interesting when investigated.
At Cape May in 1971 at the Air Races we lost 5 planes in two separate
mid-air collisions in the same race. I was an eye witness to that event
along with many others. During the investigation, we interviewed several
eye witnesses. Many of these people had seen the event from the same
direction and the same angle. No two eye witnesses reported seeing
exactly the same thing. The macro picture was close, but the micro
details were quite different, and it's the details in such an event that
are needed by an investigating team.
I discussed this at some length with a friend of mine from the FBI on a
later occasion.
He verified what I had suspected; that there is a highly complicated
mental process involved with visual impact shock vs recall that involves
the mind "adjusting" what the eye has seen in an instant in time to
reflect a preconceived path of logic that involves the mind mentally
completing in recall by "adjusted" logic detail that the mind says
should be there to complete the picture.
The rest of it was WAY over my pay grade, but the bottom line is that
when you see something as traumatic as say a mid-air collision, your
eyewitness account of that event can be flawed.
Dudley Henriques

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:
But seriously - from this group, can you imagine that a new thread
would
NOT
be started when the report is out?

Then can I opin on what I saw with my own eyes?


Eyewitness accounts of plane crashes are interesting when investigated.
At Cape May in 1971 at the Air Races we lost 5 planes in two separate
mid-air collisions in the same race. I was an eye witness to that event
along with many others. During the investigation, we interviewed several
eye witnesses. Many of these people had seen the event from the same
direction and the same angle. No two eye witnesses reported seeing
exactly the same thing. The macro picture was close, but the micro
details were quite different, and it's the details in such an event that
are needed by an investigating team.
I discussed this at some length with a friend of mine from the FBI on a
later occasion.
He verified what I had suspected; that there is a highly complicated
mental process involved with visual impact shock vs recall that involves
the mind "adjusting" what the eye has seen in an instant in time to
reflect a preconceived path of logic that involves the mind mentally
completing in recall by "adjusted" logic detail that the mind says
should be there to complete the picture.
The rest of it was WAY over my pay grade, but the bottom line is that
when you see something as traumatic as say a mid-air collision, your
eyewitness account of that event can be flawed.
Dudley Henriques

Very nicely stated.
Peter

"Jeff" jfranks1971 minus wrote in message
...

But seriously - from this group, can you imagine that a new thread would
NOT
be started when the report is out?

Then can I opin on what I saw with my own eyes?

Not my call. Dudley said the people that fly the P-51's would rather that
the speculation be held, and that we wait for the final report from the
NTSB.

If you think you have something valuable to report, Dudley would probably
not mind if you contacted him back channels, and then tell him what you saw.
He could pass it along, if it was a valuable clue.

I'm not speaking for Dudley, though.
--
Jim in NC