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Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released



 
 
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Old August 4th 07, 04:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Danny Deger
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released

I forgot to mention the other safety tip I added to this thread. Based on
my personal experience doing many of them -- after being trained by the Air
Force -- formation landings are dangerous. Maybe somebody reading this
message will someday avoid death by not attempting this dangerous maneuver
without proper training. Dudley has pointed out this dangerous maneuver is
not recommended in P-51 and was not the cause of the recent death of a
fellow pilot.

As to the P-51 community thinking I am a NOBODY, I have flown 3 aircraft
that are much higher performance than the P-51. By my standards it is
underpowered, climbs like a brick, has a low service ceiling, is very slow,
and isn't armed heavily enough to do much damage to enemy aircraft or enemy
forces on the ground. Also, I am an owner of a prewar, vintage taildragger
that I fly often. Last thing, as the Space Shuttle Entry Training Flow
Supervisor I literally wrote the book on flying from Mach 25 to Mach 1.
This is not a misprint. By anybody's standards I am a leading expert on how
to fly an aircraft at Mach 25. If this makes me a NOBODY to someone who has
flown or owns a P-51, then I want no part of this community. My guess is
you are a poor spokesman for the P-51 community.

Danny Deger

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Old August 4th 07, 06:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Morgans[_2_]
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released


"Danny Deger" wrote more drivel, showing he has:

0.0 reading comprehension. You are one messed up dude. Seek help.
--
Jim in NC


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Old August 4th 07, 01:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Danny Deger
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released


"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Danny Deger" wrote more drivel, showing he has:

0.0 reading comprehension. You are one messed up dude. Seek help.


At least you are consistant. Just pull out the worst insults you can think
of and throw them around. You forgot to insult my mother and my dog while
you were at it. Why don't you go off to the warez groups where such netique
is the norm? I would like to keep this group on the topic of piloting
aircraft..

Danny Deger

  #4  
Old August 4th 07, 03:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Matt Whiting
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released

Danny Deger wrote:
I forgot to mention the other safety tip I added to this thread. Based
on my personal experience doing many of them -- after being trained by
the Air Force -- formation landings are dangerous. Maybe somebody
reading this message will someday avoid death by not attempting this
dangerous maneuver without proper training. Dudley has pointed out this
dangerous maneuver is not recommended in P-51 and was not the cause of
the recent death of a fellow pilot.

As to the P-51 community thinking I am a NOBODY, I have flown 3 aircraft
that are much higher performance than the P-51. By my standards it is
underpowered, climbs like a brick, has a low service ceiling, is very
slow, and isn't armed heavily enough to do much damage to enemy aircraft
or enemy forces on the ground. Also, I am an owner of a prewar, vintage
taildragger that I fly often. Last thing, as the Space Shuttle Entry
Training Flow Supervisor I literally wrote the book on flying from Mach
25 to Mach 1. This is not a misprint. By anybody's standards I am a
leading expert on how to fly an aircraft at Mach 25. If this makes me a
NOBODY to someone who has flown or owns a P-51, then I want no part of
this community. My guess is you are a poor spokesman for the P-51
community.


You obviously outclass us all here (not!), so please take your ego and
go elsewhere.

Matt
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Old August 4th 07, 05:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Danny Deger
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Danny Deger wrote:

snip

You obviously outclass us all here (not!), so please take your ego and go
elsewhere.


Sorry, I got kind of carried away there. I will try and calm down a bit.

Danny Deger

  #6  
Old August 4th 07, 05:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Matt Whiting
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released

Danny Deger wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Danny Deger wrote:

snip

You obviously outclass us all here (not!), so please take your ego and
go elsewhere.


Sorry, I got kind of carried away there. I will try and calm down a bit.


I'm glad to hear that.

Cheers,
Matt
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Old August 4th 07, 06:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released



Danny Deger wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Danny Deger wrote:

snip

You obviously outclass us all here (not!), so please take your ego and
go elsewhere.


Sorry, I got kind of carried away there. I will try and calm down a bit.

Danny Deger

I wouldn't worry too much about it Danny. Happens all the time on
Usenet :-)
I remember when I first started posting on these forums years ago.
Someone would either come at me with something personal, or attempt to
tell me that something I had been doing with an airplane for 50 years
and teaching others to do with airplanes for 50 years was all wrong.
I'd of course answer immediately with my entire biography, quotes
attesting to my fantastic prowess as a pilot from everybody I knew who
didn't owe me money or a bottle of Jack Daniels, and 600 word posts
telling the world I knew what the hell I was talking about.
Then one day something happened that changed the way I viewed Usenet
even to this day.
Somebody posted to a forum that I wasn't Dudley Henriques because he
knew Dudley Henriques and I definitely wasn't him.
My wife immediately answered the guy telling him that if he had a
moment, would he please tell the real Dudley Henriques to come the hell
home because the one she had been living with for forty years could not
be coerced even with the promise of booze and sex into doing yard work!

Dudley Henriques
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Old August 4th 07, 06:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Danny Deger
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...


Danny Deger wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Danny Deger wrote:

snip

You obviously outclass us all here (not!), so please take your ego and
go elsewhere.


Sorry, I got kind of carried away there. I will try and calm down a bit.

Danny Deger

I wouldn't worry too much about it Danny. Happens all the time on Usenet
:-)
I remember when I first started posting on these forums years ago. Someone
would either come at me with something personal, or attempt to tell me
that something I had been doing with an airplane for 50 years and teaching
others to do with airplanes for 50 years was all wrong.
I'd of course answer immediately with my entire biography, quotes
attesting to my fantastic prowess as a pilot from everybody I knew who
didn't owe me money or a bottle of Jack Daniels, and 600 word posts
telling the world I knew what the hell I was talking about.
Then one day something happened that changed the way I viewed Usenet even
to this day.
Somebody posted to a forum that I wasn't Dudley Henriques because he knew
Dudley Henriques and I definitely wasn't him.
My wife immediately answered the guy telling him that if he had a moment,
would he please tell the real Dudley Henriques to come the hell home
because the one she had been living with for forty years could not be
coerced even with the promise of booze and sex into doing yard work!


Thanks for the post. Did you go back home?

Danny Deger


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Old August 4th 07, 06:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released



Danny Deger wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...


Danny Deger wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Danny Deger wrote:
snip

You obviously outclass us all here (not!), so please take your ego
and go elsewhere.


Sorry, I got kind of carried away there. I will try and calm down a
bit.

Danny Deger

I wouldn't worry too much about it Danny. Happens all the time on
Usenet :-)
I remember when I first started posting on these forums years ago.
Someone would either come at me with something personal, or attempt to
tell me that something I had been doing with an airplane for 50 years
and teaching others to do with airplanes for 50 years was all wrong.
I'd of course answer immediately with my entire biography, quotes
attesting to my fantastic prowess as a pilot from everybody I knew who
didn't owe me money or a bottle of Jack Daniels, and 600 word posts
telling the world I knew what the hell I was talking about.
Then one day something happened that changed the way I viewed Usenet
even to this day.
Somebody posted to a forum that I wasn't Dudley Henriques because he
knew Dudley Henriques and I definitely wasn't him.
My wife immediately answered the guy telling him that if he had a
moment, would he please tell the real Dudley Henriques to come the
hell home because the one she had been living with for forty years
could not be coerced even with the promise of booze and sex into doing
yard work!


Thanks for the post. Did you go back home?

Danny Deger



Never left :-)
DH
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Old August 4th 07, 06:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Matt Whiting
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Default Preliminary NTSB Report on the Oshkosh P51 Crash Released

Danny Deger wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...


Danny Deger wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Danny Deger wrote:
snip

You obviously outclass us all here (not!), so please take your ego
and go elsewhere.


Sorry, I got kind of carried away there. I will try and calm down a
bit.

Danny Deger

I wouldn't worry too much about it Danny. Happens all the time on
Usenet :-)
I remember when I first started posting on these forums years ago.
Someone would either come at me with something personal, or attempt to
tell me that something I had been doing with an airplane for 50 years
and teaching others to do with airplanes for 50 years was all wrong.
I'd of course answer immediately with my entire biography, quotes
attesting to my fantastic prowess as a pilot from everybody I knew who
didn't owe me money or a bottle of Jack Daniels, and 600 word posts
telling the world I knew what the hell I was talking about.
Then one day something happened that changed the way I viewed Usenet
even to this day.
Somebody posted to a forum that I wasn't Dudley Henriques because he
knew Dudley Henriques and I definitely wasn't him.
My wife immediately answered the guy telling him that if he had a
moment, would he please tell the real Dudley Henriques to come the
hell home because the one she had been living with for forty years
could not be coerced even with the promise of booze and sex into doing
yard work!


Thanks for the post. Did you go back home?


Better to ask Mrs. Henriques! :-)

Matt
 




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