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Old August 4th 07, 04:31 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Francois
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SandMan a écrit :


Color me ignorant, but what is Yenc and why the heck does it format
posts so they're unreadable with a basic news reader app?


Same question...
;-(

Francois
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Old August 5th 07, 12:24 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Sunny[_2_]
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Default Separate yEnc threads?


"Francois" wrote in message
...
SandMan a écrit :


Color me ignorant, but what is Yenc and why the heck does it format posts
so they're unreadable with a basic news reader app?


Same question...


http://www.yenc.org/
http://www.faerber.muc.de/temp/20020...c-harmful.html
http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/yenc.html
http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/yencmyths.html
http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/


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Old August 5th 07, 01:42 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Pop`
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Francois wrote:
SandMan a écrit :


Color me ignorant, but what is Yenc and why the heck does it format
posts so they're unreadable with a basic news reader app?


Same question...
;-(

Francois
LFBO


It's just another protocol for encapsulating images, nothing more, and isn't
supported by the mainstream clients. The main objection to it is you need a
separate decoder/encoder to use it for download/uploads.

There are always a few that like to make their excuses for using something
the mainstram doesn't use and most of the time it's so they can feel
superior, but superior to what is anyone's guess. For computer viewing and
every-day printing needs, it's no improvement over anything. Google will
give you lots of info onthe pros & cons of it.

Pop`



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Old August 5th 07, 07:34 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Adhominem
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Default Separate yEnc threads?

Pop` wrote:
It's just another protocol for encapsulating images, nothing more

That's its strong side: A 100kb jpeg will result in a standard 140kb post,
but in a 102kb yEnc post. Thus, less overhead with yenc, faster downloads
or better picture quality at same download size possible.

supported by the mainstream clients. The main objection to it is you need
a separate decoder/encoder to use it for download/uploads.

All dedicated newsgroup clients can AFAIK read it, the combined
Mail/News-Client Office Express and Mozilla Thunderbird seemingly can't.

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Old August 5th 07, 10:20 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Adhominem wrote:

Office Express


Outlook, not Office. Outlook Express.

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Old August 5th 07, 07:05 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:42:15 GMT, "Pop`"
wrote:

Francois wrote:
SandMan a écrit :


Color me ignorant, but what is Yenc and why the heck does it format
posts so they're unreadable with a basic news reader app?


Same question...
;-(

Francois
LFBO


It's just another protocol for encapsulating images, nothing more, and isn't
supported by the mainstream clients.


Nonsense. Agent is one of the most popular newsreaders, certainly
mainstream, and requires no separate decoder or encoder. I guess you
define mainstream as "anything Pop uses."


There are always a few that like to make their excuses for using something
the mainstram doesn't use and most of the time it's so they can feel
superior, but superior to what is anyone's guess. For computer viewing and
every-day printing needs, it's no improvement over anything.


yEnc was not intended to do anything with viewing or printing, but
only with encoded file sze. In fact, the improvement in transmitted
file size with yEnc is so significant that in groups devoted to
multimedia or audio, where files are quite large even before encoding,
yEnc is so dominant that without yEnc capability you'd miss most of
the files.


Google will
give you lots of info onthe pros & cons of it.

You ought to also look at the pros and cons of UU--the encoding
scheme you apparently favor. All it has going for it is that many
people use it--it does nothing better than yEnc, yet produces bigger
files.

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Old August 5th 07, 10:08 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Bert-Jan[_5_]
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"Pop`" wrote in
news:H19ti.15382$ug3.14532@trnddc06:

Francois wrote:
SandMan a écrit :


Color me ignorant, but what is Yenc and why the heck does it format
posts so they're unreadable with a basic news reader app?


Same question...
;-(

Francois
LFBO


It's just another protocol for encapsulating images, nothing more, and
isn't supported by the mainstream clients. The main objection to it
is you need a separate decoder/encoder to use it for download/uploads.

There are always a few that like to make their excuses for using
something the mainstram doesn't use and most of the time it's so they
can feel superior, but superior to what is anyone's guess. For
computer viewing and every-day printing needs, it's no improvement
over anything. Google will give you lots of info onthe pros & cons of
it.

Pop`




OK, I'm biting.....

Why not answer the question like you did in the first part of your
(somewhat coloured) reply and then QUIT!!!!

A real good and proper answer would also include referrals to programs
with which one can view these files, leaving the original poster the
choice wether to go there and use one or not.

Cheers,

Bert-Jan
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Old August 6th 07, 05:57 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Clairbear
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Default Separate yEnc threads?

"Pop`" wrote in
news:H19ti.15382$ug3.14532@trnddc06:

Francois wrote:
SandMan a écrit :


Color me ignorant, but what is Yenc and why the heck does it format
posts so they're unreadable with a basic news reader app?


Same question...
;-(

Francois
LFBO


It's just another protocol for encapsulating images, nothing more, and
isn't supported by the mainstream clients. The main objection to it
is you need a separate decoder/encoder to use it for download/uploads.

There are always a few that like to make their excuses for using
something the mainstram doesn't use and most of the time it's so they
can feel superior, but superior to what is anyone's guess. For
computer viewing and every-day printing needs, it's no improvement
over anything. Google will give you lots of info onthe pros & cons of
it.

Pop`





Pop
doubt that it is used to make anyone feel superior, but instead since,like
zip and rar files, it is a compression method to encode data for faster
transmission.
When I was new to the use net I used to get upset about all the posts I
could not decode. Once I learned how to read these varied files it opened
up a lot more info for me to see.
There is no secret handshake needed just time research and asking for help.
There is no secret Usenet Mason's Society to belong to just a few people
who have found what they believe to be a better way, not that it is or
is'nt better. Just tha it is there to use if you are willing to learn and
patient
 




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