Friday 072707 in Oshkosh Pt 1 - the Raptor [01/30] - "F22 lifting off 18 after very short takeoff roll.jpg" yEnc (0/1)

"Just Plane Noise" wrote in message
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:35:51 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:18:33 -0400, "Boomerang"
wrote:

Don...as a geezer fully capable in yEnc and a dozen other equally
unpronounceable software applications, I think this message of yours is
an
absolute masterpiece of compassion, consideration and common sense.
Nicely
done!!


Mmmm. Well, I am a 70 yo geezer who subscribes to a very good news
reader and I can't tell the difference between yenc and jpeg. I don't
even look at the format. My only complaint is the incessant whining
about yenc. No one is making anyone switch to yenc. If you can not
open it, so be it. Continue to open those pics you can see. As far
as wasted bandwidth, well, threads like this and all the previous
****ing contests don't really help, do they?

Dave



And I hit 60 in a few days. I also challenge the notion that age has
much to do with it, A lot of kids today may use technology that is
unfamiliar to us, uh, advanced middle-aged folk, but their
understanding of the workings of that technology is often limited to
not much more than knowing where the power switch is.


Sorry, Noise, mythology will not support your position.

gdp

I concur :-)


"Boomerang" wrote in message
...
Don...as a geezer fully capable in yEnc and a dozen other equally
unpronounceable software applications, I think this message of yours is an
absolute masterpiece of compassion, consideration and common sense.
Nicely done!!

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:08:14 GMT, "Glenn"
wrote:

I concur :-)


"Boomerang" wrote in message
.. .
Don...as a geezer fully capable in yEnc and a dozen other equally
unpronounceable software applications, I think this message of yours is an
absolute masterpiece of compassion, consideration and common sense.
Nicely done!!


A top poster concurring. That's funny.

Dave LaCourse wrote:

A top poster concurring. That's funny.

And a bottom poster too stupid to know how to trim a post is just as
funny.

You don't care to follow the posting guidelines regarding Yenc.

You don't care to follow the posting guidelines regarding trimming
posts.

What the **** why don't you start posting in HTML and make it three for
three.

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:15:59 GMT, shiver
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:

A top poster concurring. That's funny.

And a bottom poster too stupid to know how to trim a post is just as
funny.

Oh, you mean like this:
"I CANNOT GET SOFTWARE THAT WILL DECODE YENC ON MY COMPUTER.
I CANNOT GET SOFTWARE THAT WILL DECODE YENC ON MY COMPUTER.
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You don't care to follow the posting guidelines regarding Yenc.

I have never posted in Yenc. If you can show me where I did, I'll
give ya a hundred bucks. Guidelines are not rules, Mr. Anonymous.
This is an unmoderated newsgroup and unless usenet rules are broken,
there is nothing you can do about it. Live with it. When you see
yenc, pass it by. Nobody will care. Of course, you will miss some
great art, but *I* surely don't care about that. No one does.

You don't care to follow the posting guidelines regarding trimming
posts.

See your rant above.

What the **** why don't you start posting in HTML and make it three for
three.

Why would I? Plane or anyone posting or supporting yenc is not trying
to anger you, Mr. Anonymous. YOU have no right to tell ANYONE what
they can and can not post.

Dave LaCourse

"Don Pyeatt" wrote in
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"G.Kuhn" wrote in message
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My second post on this subject.....
Flame suit on :-)
WHAT is so flippen difficult in reading/opening yenc files?
Yes, I don't particularly like them, but it is SO easy to download
and save them in OE, and then decoding with 3rd party software.
And this from about six years back already, when I started net
surfing. Heck, anything that saves bandwidth in this retard country
of mine, is a bonus.
Maybe, just maybe, slow down on the ranting and raving, and
discreetly ask for help, draws less attention to one's shortcomings,
I learnt that the embarrassing way :-)

Buffy


Hi, Buffy !

Perhaps I can explain the problem to you since you don't seem to be of
the same brash ilk as the bombastic group of kids who charged into
this group and exiled our most prolific and congenial long-term
posters.

There is nothing wrong with yEnc. Mr. Noise explained it very well -
if a person is a user of many newsgroups and downloads media files,
e-books and other large files then something like yEnc is nearly
mandatory. On the other hand, this is a still picture group where the
file sizes rarely exceed 300KB. A file that size will download with
yEnc in about 10 seconds on a DSL connection, around 12 seconds
without yEnc. Two seconds may be an eternity for an impetuous
youngster but it is totally insignificant in this newsgroup. Step up
to cable service and differences in D/L time become almost
immeasurable.

With that said, the real reason(s) for the regular members here
wanting to ban yEnc is that some are TOO OLD to understand how to
install ANY kind of software on their computers. Some are (or were,
before they bailed) barely able to use email and read this newsgroup.
So, should we just tell them to fuddle off or upgrade? I doubt if the
invaders would tell their own grandparents to F-off but for some
reason they don't hesitate to tell those here to do the same.

This is a global group of people who share the same love for aviation
photos. The older members have provided a wealth of historical
information regarding vintage aircraft, their experiences in various
wars, and have been most generous by providing priceless information
of a historical nature. Some of these same people are embarrassed to
reveal a lack of skill using a computer and will simply leave to avoid
the insolence of some snot-nosed kid who tells them to get out of the
dark ages and upgrade to *their* standards.

This is why a large amount of time was invested here to hammer out a
usage guideline that would be agreeable to all regardless of their
computer skills.

Is this too difficult to understand?

gdp







In the time you have written the above epistel you could have
downloaded, installed and be up and running Xnews TWICE. With fewer
keyhits and fewer mouse clicks.
This is NOT difficult and if you are not sure how to there are people
around here that are very willing to walk you through it.

A friend of mine lives on a farm here in the netherlands and is, to his
own disgust, still dependant on dial-up connection. On top of that he
has up- and down load limits. So for these people (and there are more of
them than you can imagine) please keep your posts as small as you can.

I know I will.

--
Cheers,

Bert-Jan

"Bert-Jan" wrote in message
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"Don Pyeatt" wrote in
:


"G.Kuhn" wrote in message
...
My second post on this subject.....
Flame suit on :-)
WHAT is so flippen difficult in reading/opening yenc files?
Yes, I don't particularly like them, but it is SO easy to download
and save them in OE, and then decoding with 3rd party software.
And this from about six years back already, when I started net
surfing. Heck, anything that saves bandwidth in this retard country
of mine, is a bonus.
Maybe, just maybe, slow down on the ranting and raving, and
discreetly ask for help, draws less attention to one's shortcomings,
I learnt that the embarrassing way :-)

Buffy


Hi, Buffy !

Perhaps I can explain the problem to you since you don't seem to be of
the same brash ilk as the bombastic group of kids who charged into
this group and exiled our most prolific and congenial long-term
posters.

There is nothing wrong with yEnc. Mr. Noise explained it very well -
if a person is a user of many newsgroups and downloads media files,
e-books and other large files then something like yEnc is nearly
mandatory. On the other hand, this is a still picture group where the
file sizes rarely exceed 300KB. A file that size will download with
yEnc in about 10 seconds on a DSL connection, around 12 seconds
without yEnc. Two seconds may be an eternity for an impetuous
youngster but it is totally insignificant in this newsgroup. Step up
to cable service and differences in D/L time become almost
immeasurable.

With that said, the real reason(s) for the regular members here
wanting to ban yEnc is that some are TOO OLD to understand how to
install ANY kind of software on their computers. Some are (or were,
before they bailed) barely able to use email and read this newsgroup.
So, should we just tell them to fuddle off or upgrade? I doubt if the
invaders would tell their own grandparents to F-off but for some
reason they don't hesitate to tell those here to do the same.

This is a global group of people who share the same love for aviation
photos. The older members have provided a wealth of historical
information regarding vintage aircraft, their experiences in various
wars, and have been most generous by providing priceless information
of a historical nature. Some of these same people are embarrassed to
reveal a lack of skill using a computer and will simply leave to avoid
the insolence of some snot-nosed kid who tells them to get out of the
dark ages and upgrade to *their* standards.

This is why a large amount of time was invested here to hammer out a
usage guideline that would be agreeable to all regardless of their
computer skills.

Is this too difficult to understand?

gdp







In the time you have written the above epistel you could have
downloaded, installed and be up and running Xnews TWICE. With fewer
keyhits and fewer mouse clicks.
This is NOT difficult and if you are not sure how to there are people
around here that are very willing to walk you through it.

A friend of mine lives on a farm here in the netherlands and is, to his
own disgust, still dependant on dial-up connection. On top of that he
has up- and down load limits. So for these people (and there are more of
them than you can imagine) please keep your posts as small as you can.

I know I will.

--
Cheers,

Bert-Jan

Good morning Bert-Jan,

Concerns of those much like your dial-up constrained friend have always been
accommodated by the regulars in this newsgroup. Every request for a re-post
of a smaller version (or a larger version for that matter) of an original
posting has been honored. It's only a matter of mutual respect.

Thank you for your observations and comments.

Don

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:56:34 -0500, "Don Pyeatt"
wrote:


Good morning Bert-Jan,

Concerns of those much like your dial-up constrained friend have always been
accommodated by the regulars in this newsgroup. Every request for a re-post
of a smaller version (or a larger version for that matter) of an original
posting has been honored. It's only a matter of mutual respect.

Thank you for your observations and comments.

Don


Oh, so they should be "forced" to settle for a smaller version just
because someone can't use more efficient encoding (and that's what
yEnc is)? (I think that's how you'd phrase it if you were on the yEnc
side, Don--I'm just trying to do an imitation.)

In the time you have written the above epistel you could have
downloaded, installed and be up and running Xnews TWICE. With fewer
keyhits and fewer mouse clicks.
This is NOT difficult and if you are not sure how to there are people
around here that are very willing to walk you through it.

A friend of mine lives on a farm here in the netherlands and is, to
his own disgust, still dependant on dial-up connection. On top of
that he has up- and down load limits. So for these people (and there
are more of them than you can imagine) please keep your posts as
small as you can.

I know I will.

--
Cheers,

Bert-Jan

Good morning Bert-Jan,

Concerns of those much like your dial-up constrained friend have
always been accommodated by the regulars in this newsgroup. Every
request for a re-post of a smaller version (or a larger version for
that matter) of an original posting has been honored. It's only a
matter of mutual respect.

Thank you for your observations and comments.

Don




Which would mean that other people with slower connections and/or
download limits have to be happy with downsized or inferior quality
products, when the technology is there for them.

I don't think so!

--
Cheers,

Bert-Jan

Bert-Jan wrote:

please keep your posts as small as you can.

Then why did you quote two different posters instead of trimming the
posts like I did.??????

I know I will.

You have already proven that statement to be not true.