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Old August 10th 07, 05:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.ultralight,rec.aviation.soaring
Morgans[_2_]
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"Dana wrote
The major problem is the weight of the batteries, still far heavier
than gasoline. Also the lithium polymer batteries used are still
quite expensive (over $10,000 for enough for a half hour flight) and
somewhat dangerous (sort them out and they can explode!)


Damn straight! No way am I going to strap a bunch of lithium polymer
batteries to my butt.

Some of the newer Lithium iron cells, maybe, but they also cost a LOT more.

Still, electric flight, like many have said, still have a way to go.
--
Jim in NC


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Old August 10th 07, 05:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.ultralight,rec.aviation.soaring
Gig 601XL Builder
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Morgans wrote:
"Dana wrote
The major problem is the weight of the batteries, still far heavier
than gasoline. Also the lithium polymer batteries used are still
quite expensive (over $10,000 for enough for a half hour flight) and
somewhat dangerous (sort them out and they can explode!)


Damn straight! No way am I going to strap a bunch of lithium polymer
batteries to my butt.

Some of the newer Lithium iron cells, maybe, but they also cost a LOT
more.
Still, electric flight, like many have said, still have a way to go.


And as if we need more proof of this.

TOKYO: Japan's Toyota Motor Corp. will delay by one or two years the rollout
of new high-mileage hybrids with lithium-ion batteries because of safety
concerns, reported a newspaper.

Toyota's decision was prompted by worries that the batteries could overheat,
catch fire or even explode, the Wall Street Journal on Thursday reported in
its online edition, quoting unnamed Toyota executives.


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Old August 10th 07, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Big John
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Gig

Just saw where GM bought a battery company here in US that has
developed batteries that do not catch fire or expload like current
Lithium Polymer's.

GM expects to have a plug in auto on market at least two years before
Toyota can get their batteries sorted out and their auto on the
market.

Big John
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:37:39 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

Morgans wrote:
"Dana wrote
The major problem is the weight of the batteries, still far heavier
than gasoline. Also the lithium polymer batteries used are still
quite expensive (over $10,000 for enough for a half hour flight) and
somewhat dangerous (sort them out and they can explode!)


Damn straight! No way am I going to strap a bunch of lithium polymer
batteries to my butt.

Some of the newer Lithium iron cells, maybe, but they also cost a LOT
more.
Still, electric flight, like many have said, still have a way to go.


And as if we need more proof of this.

TOKYO: Japan's Toyota Motor Corp. will delay by one or two years the rollout
of new high-mileage hybrids with lithium-ion batteries because of safety
concerns, reported a newspaper.

Toyota's decision was prompted by worries that the batteries could overheat,
catch fire or even explode, the Wall Street Journal on Thursday reported in
its online edition, quoting unnamed Toyota executives.


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Old August 10th 07, 07:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Gig 601XL Builder
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GM on the cutting edge of anything is a little funny. And I'm sure Sony
didn't think their batteries would do this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeWq6rWzChw



Is this the story you are talking about John? If so what is an "LG Chem
cell?"
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/06...cts-for-chevy/


Big John wrote:
Gig

Just saw where GM bought a battery company here in US that has
developed batteries that do not catch fire or expload like current
Lithium Polymer's.

GM expects to have a plug in auto on market at least two years before
Toyota can get their batteries sorted out and their auto on the
market.

Big John
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Old August 10th 07, 07:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Gig 601XL Builder
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote AND THEN HIT THE SEND KEY BEFORE HE MEANT TO:
GM on the cutting edge of anything is a little funny. And I'm sure
Sony didn't think their batteries would do this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeWq6rWzChw



Is this the story you are talking about John? If so what is an "LG
Chem cell?"
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/06...gm-awards-two-
battery-development-contracts-for-chevy/


GM doing this also kind of proves my point that the new battery technology
is coming from somewhere with a lot more money in play than the ultralight
and LSA market.


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Old August 10th 07, 08:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ken Finney
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote AND THEN HIT THE SEND KEY BEFORE HE MEANT TO:
GM on the cutting edge of anything is a little funny. And I'm sure
Sony didn't think their batteries would do this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeWq6rWzChw



Is this the story you are talking about John? If so what is an "LG
Chem cell?"
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/06...gm-awards-two-
battery-development-contracts-for-chevy/


GM doing this also kind of proves my point that the new battery technology
is coming from somewhere with a lot more money in play than the ultralight
and LSA market.



"LG" is Lucky Goldstar, a Korean conglomerate.



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Old August 10th 07, 09:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Gig 601XL Builder
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Ken Finney wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote AND THEN HIT THE SEND KEY BEFORE HE MEANT TO:
GM on the cutting edge of anything is a little funny. And I'm sure
Sony didn't think their batteries would do this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeWq6rWzChw



Is this the story you are talking about John? If so what is an "LG
Chem cell?"
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/06...gm-awards-two-
battery-development-contracts-for-chevy/


GM doing this also kind of proves my point that the new battery
technology is coming from somewhere with a lot more money in play
than the ultralight and LSA market.



"LG" is Lucky Goldstar, a Korean conglomerate.


So it is just another version of a Li-Ion battery and not a "new"
technology?


 




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