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Old August 13th 07, 03:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Morgans[_2_]
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"Cy Galley" wrote

Slow speed as well.


Exactly.

If people had ever seen some charts comparing varying cutting tool speed and
feed pressure, and the resulting wear on the tool, they would be amazed.

In summary, you run your tools too fast, and they go up in smoke in a hurry.

If you ever have to guess, guess on the side of slower tool speed and more
pressure.

Of course, getting a real chart with the tool, material, and the correct
tool speed and feed speed or pressure it the "best" way to go at it. g
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Old August 13th 07, 04:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Morgans" wrote in message
...

If you ever have to guess, guess on the side of slower tool speed and more
pressure.


Amen to that, Jim. Have you ever let a drill bit spin just for a second on
some stainless and work-harden the surface?

Sounds like he is using the reamer correctly, tho. It's just the lasered
skin that's dulling the tool.

Rich S.


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Old August 13th 07, 05:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Rich S." wrote

Amen to that, Jim. Have you ever let a drill bit spin just for a second on
some stainless and work-harden the surface?


My downfall is always using a large diameter bit, in a drill press that will
not go slow enough, in thick steel.

It is amazing how you can take the temper out of a 21/32" bit, in just a
couple seconds. DAMHIKT !

Also, I found you can actually get a molten blob of glass on the end of a
regular HSS drill bit. You DO have to try quite hard to do that, tho!
Especially the part of not breaking the glass, in the process. :-o

Sounds like he is using the reamer correctly, tho. It's just the lasered
skin that's dulling the tool.


I guess the answer is probably pretty obvious, but would it be possible to
normalize the steel right around the small area of the hole? Too much loss
of strength?

It does sound like lowering the tool speed would be worth the try, once the
new reamers get there. It will be fairly obvious is the tool speed is too
low, once a few holes are attempted.
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Jim in NC


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Old August 13th 07, 07:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Morgans wrote:
"Cy Galley" wrote

Slow speed as well.


Exactly.

If people had ever seen some charts comparing varying cutting tool speed and
feed pressure, and the resulting wear on the tool, they would be amazed.

In summary, you run your tools too fast, and they go up in smoke in a hurry.

If you ever have to guess, guess on the side of slower tool speed and more
pressure.

Of course, getting a real chart with the tool, material, and the correct
tool speed and feed speed or pressure it the "best" way to go at it. g


Of course misidentifying metals is always a gas. Storing hardened
tool steel in the same place as free machining stainless makes for some
rather interesting experiences. Not that I have ever done it or anything

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old August 13th 07, 04:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Morgans" wrote in
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Of course, getting a real chart with the tool, material, and the
correct tool speed and feed speed or pressure it the "best" way to
go at it. g


OK, which brings me to another side of this, I guess. I'm hand reaming. By
that I mean I'm putting a tap handle on the reamer, sticking the work piece
in a vice and going at it by twisting the thing by hand. Needless to say
it's nearly impossible to keep the reamer absolutely straight. Am I doing
this right? One suggestion I got was to use my drill press by rigging
something up to hand turn the drill spindle (no way I can get it to turn
slowly enough for reaming) in order to get the reamer straight in.

Is this unneccesarily complicated? We're talking about .090 4130 here with
a 5/16" hole. Wing attach and strut brackets for mounting onto a wooden
spar for the most part..

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Old August 13th 07, 05:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Fortunat1" wrote in message
.. .

OK, which brings me to another side of this, I guess. I'm hand reaming. By
that I mean I'm putting a tap handle on the reamer, sticking the work
piece
in a vice and going at it by twisting the thing by hand. Needless to say
it's nearly impossible to keep the reamer absolutely straight. Am I doing
this right? One suggestion I got was to use my drill press by rigging
something up to hand turn the drill spindle (no way I can get it to turn
slowly enough for reaming) in order to get the reamer straight in.


If you look at the top of your hand reamer, I'll bet you'll find a centering
hole. Chuck up a tapered center in the drill press and use it to steady the
top of the reamer.

Rich S.


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Old August 13th 07, 06:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Rich S." wrote in
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"Fortunat1" wrote in message
.. .

OK, which brings me to another side of this, I guess. I'm hand
reaming. By that I mean I'm putting a tap handle on the reamer,
sticking the work piece
in a vice and going at it by twisting the thing by hand. Needless to
say it's nearly impossible to keep the reamer absolutely straight. Am
I doing this right? One suggestion I got was to use my drill press by
rigging something up to hand turn the drill spindle (no way I can get
it to turn slowly enough for reaming) in order to get the reamer
straight in.


If you look at the top of your hand reamer, I'll bet you'll find a
centering hole. Chuck up a tapered center in the drill press and use
it to steady the top of the reamer.



Hmm, good one. I could alos use the press to regulate the pressure on the
tool easily enough that way..



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Old August 14th 07, 03:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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What's so hard about reaming? I get reamed at work every other day


Scott
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Fortunat1 wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in
:



Of course, getting a real chart with the tool, material, and the
correct tool speed and feed speed or pressure it the "best" way to
go at it. g





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Old August 14th 07, 03:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Stealth Pilot[_2_]
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:03:28 +0000, Scott
wrote:

What's so hard about reaming? I get reamed at work every other day



I was waiting for that comment :-)

a very good use for an old large reamer...

clean it up and mount it in a varnished ornamental base.
tack on the side a plaque.
"for excellence in the field of motivation"

make a really neat job of it and present it to the office bully at the
next office occasion :-)

I still have the reamer and plaque of one presented to the boss many
years ago :-)
stopped him in his steps.

Stealth Pilot
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Old August 14th 07, 04:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ernest Christley
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Fortunat1 wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in
:


Of course, getting a real chart with the tool, material, and the
correct tool speed and feed speed or pressure it the "best" way to
go at it. g


OK, which brings me to another side of this, I guess. I'm hand reaming. By
that I mean I'm putting a tap handle on the reamer, sticking the work piece
in a vice and going at it by twisting the thing by hand. Needless to say
it's nearly impossible to keep the reamer absolutely straight. Am I doing
this right? One suggestion I got was to use my drill press by rigging
something up to hand turn the drill spindle (no way I can get it to turn
slowly enough for reaming) in order to get the reamer straight in.

Is this unneccesarily complicated? We're talking about .090 4130 here with
a 5/16" hole. Wing attach and strut brackets for mounting onto a wooden
spar for the most part..


You could chuck the reamer, and use the chuck key to turn it. A piece
of 1/4" rod (cut threads off long bolt) also make a nice turning handle.



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the other, loudly proclaiming 'WOO HOO What a Ride!'"
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