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Old August 22nd 07, 12:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Luke Skywalker
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On Aug 19, 12:25 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:16:55 -0700, Luke Skywalker
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There are two questions about the FSS "modernization" which are in
play.


The first is a tactical one, can Lockmart provide the service that
pilots need to fly safely? My guess is that eventually things improve
and get better.


Given the structure LockMart has imposed on privatized FSS, it is
unlikely that briefers with local metrological knowledge will ever be
available again as they were pre-privatization. That is not an
improvement in service nor will it get better.

The more pressing one, the one that AOPA and others seemed to
completly fall down on, is what is the role of aviation in The
Republic and what is the role of the government in aviation. I
realize that to some degree this is politics and I"ll try and stay out
of that.


https://www.reason.org/atcreform09.shtml
Air Traffic Control Reform Newsletter

Issue No. 9
December 2002

By Robert Poole

Controllers, FAA Mistaken on Privatization

Holiday travelers can expect to be greeted at many airports by
off-duty air traffic controllers protesting an alleged Bush
Administration plan to "farm out to the lowest bidder" their
vitally important jobs. In response, the Federal Aviation
Administration has managed to muddy the waters, rather than
defending the validity of what the Bush folks are actually doing.

First, let's clarify the specific change in federal policy which
the President announced last June. He signed a one-sentence
executive order re-affirming that air traffic control (ATC) is not
"inherently governmental." That order overturned a last-minute
executive order issued by President Clinton, which slipped the
"inherently governmental" language into a broader directive on
reforming ATC. Most aviation experts agree that ATC is a high-tech
service business, which can be provided either by government or by
commercial entities-always operating under stringent governmental
safety regulation. It's the safety regulation that most would
agree is inherently governmental. ...

If ATC isn't inherently governmental, why did the government shut it
down immediately after the September 11, 2001 attacks?

But privatization of the FSS system sends a clear message that
nurturing aviation a[n]d maintaining its viability at all levels is no
longer a function of the government of The Republic...It is that
simple.


Sort of like letting the Arabs run the US ports, right?

I think we will all come to regret that as events move forward,
particularly as the next step unless there is a change in thinking in
DC is that the ATC system is next.


You think? :-(

If you like how the space shuttle system is operated...you will love
Lock Mart running the FSS.


Robert


You forgot to mention dismantling the world's safest ATC system and
replacing it with a vulnerable satellite-based system, user fees, and
handing the National Airspace System over to the corporate airline
industry. Perhaps the Bush administration can award a non-competitive
ATC contract to the Arabs instead. :-(


Hello

you will not finding me defending "privatization" of government
essential functions (and ATC/FSS is one) nor this administrations rush
to hand over tax payer dollars to its corporate friends...nor will I
stand in support of the dismantaling rather then the transition of the
worlds safest ATC system.

The nation is in a period of nuttiness and has been since September
2001...I am hoping for a regroup.

Robert

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Old August 22nd 07, 12:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The nation is in a period of nuttiness and has been since September
2001...I am hoping for a regroup.

Robert- Hide quoted text -

Unfortunately, the other party is only defined by their distaste for
wasting money on military adventures, where it should be being wasted
on wealth transfer schemes, in their eyes...
The actual differences between the two parties are so small as to be
nearly invisible - only through a partisan microscope can any
difference be discerned...
Both parties are manned by professional politicians, who's only
mission is to get reelected until the day they retire - or die if you
are a Kennedy...
It appears we have gotten the government we deserve sigh

denny


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Old August 23rd 07, 12:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Luke Skywalker
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On Aug 22, 6:39 am, Denny wrote:
The nation is in a period of nuttiness and has been since September
2001...I am hoping for a regroup.


Robert- Hide quoted text -


Unfortunately, the other party is only defined by their distaste for
wasting money on military adventures, where it should be being wasted
on wealth transfer schemes, in their eyes...
The actual differences between the two parties are so small as to be
nearly invisible - only through a partisan microscope can any
difference be discerned...
Both parties are manned by professional politicians, who's only
mission is to get reelected until the day they retire - or die if you
are a Kennedy...
It appears we have gotten the government we deserve sigh

denny


I think we have the government and national situation we deserve...I
just wish we could do better.

The FSS situation (and eventually the privatization of ATC) is to my
mind an argument upon which two foundations tilt...the first is 1)
what is the proper role of government and 2) what are wealth
transfers....

Taxes are in my view a wealth transfer from individuals to the
collective government to do things for our collective society...I hate
the word collective because before long we get to the socialism
argument...

BUT FLYING IS A WEALTH TRANSFER...the American people transfer wealth
to the federal government to run a good ATC system, to make sure the
planes are safe, the navaids work...pilots are correctly certified and
trained...

It is the price we all pay for a functioning society. More then once
I have had people tell me "I dont fly so why do I care that the system
works" ....because our economy and our culture in general depend on
it. It is just like public schools or any of the other myriad of
things that the government does.

To different groups each function it does is either something of
enormous value (try the space shuttle system on NASA Rd 1...aka Nasa
Parkway) or it is a boondoggle...breakfast for kids in public schools.

I am one who believes and likes the US as a superpower and that means
we have agovernment that can make a superpower work.

Robert

 




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