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Saw President Bush's plane (response to "Saw J.T.'s Plane")



 
 
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Old August 30th 07, 10:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Gig 601XL Builder !" wrote

But that aside the majority of the citizens of the US feel that the POTUS
is
of significant enough importance to allow those who are charged with his
well being a certain latitude in his protection. While a individual or
even
many individulas might have in the past or in the future suffer some
financial loss due to the steps required to protect the POTUS it pales in
comparison to the loss that would be suffered by many, many people should
he
be killed, especially should that attack be part of a larger attack on our
country. The loss may!well be caused by purely emotional reactions but
that
doesn't make the loss any less.

Bringing a city to a halt is, to say the least, a little overstated. Bush
was here in little old El Dorado Arkansas (pop. ~20k) before the last
election. The town didn't come to a halt. A matter of fact if you weren't
in
a 4 block radius of where he was speaking you wouldn't have known he was
in
town. As a matter of fact I went to the airport where AF1 was sitting
(though it wasn't the 747 it was a 757)and was allowed inside the fence
and
allowed to go to my hanger. There was a police officer there who asked why
I
was there. When I pointed to the airplane tires in the back of my truck
and
to my hanger he said, "Have a nice day and please leave via this exit."
This
was mainly because AF1 was parked 50 yards from the other exit and I would
have had to drive past it.

As far as the limit to the POTUS's importance to the US, yes there is a
limit as there is a limit to what can be done to protect him. But, at
least
at this point the general public doesn't think that limit has been
exceeded.


Well said, Gig. It is always good to hear a voice of calm analysis, as all
around are freaking out.

They remind me of all of the conspiracy theorists, in a way. Something like
all the POTUS is trying to do is ruin their (and as many other's) day. So
sorry; life is not fair, but I believe as you do, that a dead president at
the hands of an assassin would not be a "good thing" for the country.
--
Jim in NC


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Old August 30th 07, 11:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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They remind me of all of the conspiracy theorists, in a way. Something
like all the POTUS is trying to do is ruin their (and as many other's)
day. So sorry; life is not fair, but I believe as you do, that a dead
president at the hands of an assassin would not be a "good thing" for the
country.


The problem is when one POTUS comes to town and shakes everybody's hand, and
the next one comes to town in secret or locks himself away from the public
so that only $X-contributors can see him. It gives the perception that one
is either wildly unpopular or a coward.

Mainly, my criticism is when they arrive DURING rush hour, and it's not just
Bush. Al Gore has done the same thing on at least two difference occasions
since he left the VP office. I don't see how he rates.

(When Bob Dole came to town several years ago he saw the Evergreen B-17
parked near the hangar and made security and staff stop what they were doing
so he could go tour the airplane and talk to the volunteers. Now there's a
good man!)

-c


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Old August 31st 07, 06:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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(When Bob Dole came to town several years ago he saw the Evergreen B-17
parked near the hangar and made security and staff stop what they were doing
so he could go tour the airplane and talk to the volunteers. Now there's a
good man!)


Yep, Dole should've been elected president. Our country would have
benefited greatly from his wisdom and experience, IMHO.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old August 31st 07, 07:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
(When Bob Dole came to town several years ago he saw the Evergreen B-17
parked near the hangar and made security and staff stop what they were
doing
so he could go tour the airplane and talk to the volunteers. Now there's
a
good man!)


Yep, Dole should've been elected president. Our country would have
benefited greatly from his wisdom and experience, IMHO.


Dole, had he been elected (and given his opponent, that could not have been
bad), would have been another Dwight Eisenhower.



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Old August 31st 07, 09:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt Barrow writes:

Dole, had he been elected (and given his opponent, that could not have been
bad), would have been another Dwight Eisenhower.


Is that good or bad?
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Old August 31st 07, 09:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Yep, Dole should've been elected president. Our country would have
benefited greatly from his wisdom and experience, IMHO.


Dole, had he been elected (and given his opponent, that could not have
been bad), would have been another Dwight Eisenhower.


Fascinating. Ike was before my time, so I'm curious what you mean by that.

-c


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Old September 1st 07, 01:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Yep, Dole should've been elected president.


....in 2000.

Our country would have
benefited greatly from his wisdom and experience, IMHO.


Yep.

--
Dan

"Sanity is not to be without fantasy, but to know reality, and remember the
difference."
- Clive James


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Old August 30th 07, 11:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.piloting, on Thu 30 Aug 2007 04:51:26p, "Morgans"
wrote:

They remind me of all of the conspiracy theorists, in a way.
Something like all the POTUS is trying to do is ruin their (and as
many other's) day. So sorry; life is not fair, but I believe as you
do, that a dead president at the hands of an assassin would not be a
"good thing" for the country.


Kind of depends upon who the dead president is and who the replacement
might be. Unfortunately, unless the assassin manages to take out the VP
also, you just get a continuation of the previous president's political
party's policies. If by some perversion of fate, Hillary does somehow
manage to get elected, I have to say that I would definitely celebrate her
being assasinated -- especially if Bill managed to be taken out with her.
Well, at least until whichever bozo takes her place takes office.
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Old September 1st 07, 01:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Really-Old-Fart" wrote:

I have to say that I would definitely celebrate her
being assasinated -- especially if Bill managed to be taken out with her.


Incredible.

Ya know, I don't much care for Hillary, but it will be fun watching talk radio
remoras like you fume and sputter if she gets elected.

--
Dan

"Almost all the matter that came out of the Big Bang was two specific sorts;
hydrogen, and stupidity."

-Robert Carnegie in talk.origins


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Old September 1st 07, 09:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Ya know, I don't much care for Hillary, but it will be fun watching talk radio
remoras like you fume and sputter if she gets elected.


I think it's hilarious, and more than a little weird, that in an
election year where the Democrats could almost literally run ANYONE
(up to an including Josef Stalin or Adolph Hitler) and win the White
House, their two current front-runners are virtually unelectable.

If the "Republicans" (whatever *they* are anymore) retain the White
House because of this, it will be truly a shame.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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