req: CFI job advice

On Aug 31, 6:23 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

There are two ways to instruct
1) Work at FBO, get lots of hours, make about $15/hr
2) Work for yourself, work between 0-10 hours per week and making $50/

I often wonder how instructors (in a general collective sense) managed
to get themselves into this ridicuous low pay situation.

Being a flight instructor is supposed to be a position of knowledge,
responsibility, respect, and all that, and yet, for some reason they
command a pittance of a wage comparatively.

The same is true really of most career pilots, even for airline
pilots, considering the weight on thier shoulders, the money isn't
really that amazing.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:58:16 -0700, James Sleeman wrote:

I often wonder how instructors (in a general collective sense) managed
to get themselves into this ridicuous low pay situation.

Supply and demand.

If Enzo Ferrari ran an ad for Ferrari test drivers in Italy paying
$3.00/hour he would get a million resumes and one of them would me mine.

:-)

--
Dallas

In rec.aviation.piloting, on Fri 31 Aug 2007 01:22:37a, Dallas
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:58:16 -0700, James Sleeman wrote:
If Enzo Ferrari ran an ad for Ferrari test drivers in Italy paying
$3.00/hour he would get a million resumes and one of them would me
mine.

Well, considering the fact that he died in 1988, the chance of that
happening are rather remote.

"Dallas" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:58:16 -0700, James Sleeman wrote:

I often wonder how instructors (in a general collective sense) managed
to get themselves into this ridicuous low pay situation.

Supply and demand.

If Enzo Ferrari ran an ad for Ferrari test drivers in Italy paying
$3.00/hour he would get a million resumes and one of them would me mine.

Except, now there's a waiting list at the FBO for instructors to become
available, so supply and demand says it ought to be a really good time to be
a CFI...

-c

Gattman wrote:
Except, now there's a waiting list at the FBO for instructors to
become available, so supply and demand says it ought to be a really
good time to be a CFI...

There's a waiting list for students willing to pay for a $15/hr instructor.
If it goes up there may not any students at all. While supply and demand
works well on the macro level it doesn't always do so on the micro level.

On Aug 31, 8:37 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
Gattman wrote:
Except, now there's a waiting list at the FBO for instructors to
become available, so supply and demand says it ought to be a really
good time to be a CFI...

There's a waiting list for students willing to pay for a $15/hr instructor.
If it goes up there may not any students at all. While supply and demand
works well on the macro level it doesn't always do so on the micro level.

No, supply and demand work great. As instruction rates go up, students
will drop off and there will be less demand such that supply and
demand will equal. We just don't like thinking about the idea that
demand for instruction will go down.

-Robert

One way to increase CFI salaries is to form a powerful organization
called the AFIA (American Flight Instructor Association) that deems
that nobody can become a CFI without 8000 hrs total time including
2000 hrs of aerobatics, and at least a 100 Atlantic crossings in a
single engine and 5 yrs of advanced ground school. All CFIs have to be
evaluated and blessed by the AFIA before they can start instructing.
The reason for the stringent requirements would be of course that
flight instruction is a serious activity and only the best should
have the privilege to do so.
This is the only known way to beat the free market.

On Aug 31, 9:31 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Aug 31, 8:37 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:

Gattman wrote:
Except, now there's a waiting list at the FBO for instructors to
become available, so supply and demand says it ought to be a really
good time to be a CFI...

There's a waiting list for students willing to pay for a $15/hr instructor.
If it goes up there may not any students at all. While supply and demand
works well on the macro level it doesn't always do so on the micro level.

No, supply and demand work great. As instruction rates go up, students
will drop off and there will be less demand such that supply and
demand will equal. We just don't like thinking about the idea that
demand for instruction will go down.

-Robert