Bonanza crash caught on video

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.

What's horrifying is how everything looks fine and then suddenly goes all
wrong.

Recent experience gives me a lot of empathy with this situation. Never
hesitate to abort the instant you have any doubt about the success of a
takeoff.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.

What's horrifying is how everything looks fine and then suddenly goes all
wrong.

Yes, that was my first reaction also. The airplane appeared to pass the
camera with good speed, good acceleration and a good engine sound. It
was incredulous to watch it go so wrong.

Matt

"Dan Luke" wrote:

What's horrifying is how everything looks fine and then suddenly goes all
wrong.

I disagree Dan. When he lifts off you can see the end of the runway
near. Obviously he saw that as well. The initial wing rocking may
have been just after leaving ground effect at lower than optimal
airspeed.

It would be interesting to know the wind speed/direction. I believe
that he took off on runway 31.

Ron Lee

What's horrifying is how everything looks fine and then suddenly goes all
wrong.

I disagree Dan. When he lifts off you can see the end of the runway
near. Obviously he saw that as well. The initial wing rocking may
have been just after leaving ground effect at lower than optimal
airspeed.

It would be interesting to know the wind speed/direction. I believe
that he took off on runway 31.

I just watched the video again, and noticed something that seems odd
-- there was no fire.

A rescuer commented that at least one survivor was splashed with gas,
so fuel exhaustion isn't (apparently) the cause -- but I wonder why
there was no fire, with all the violent twisting/shearing of metal and
the hot engine?

Good fortune, I suppose. Similar videos always seem to end in smoke
and flame...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote

Good fortune, I suppose. Similar videos always seem to end in smoke
and flame...

I was amazed by that, also. My first guess was that it plowed into a rather
sandy hill, and perhaps the sand helped to smother any chance of fire, but I
guess it is mostly luck, as you say.
--
Jim in NC

"Ron Lee" wrote:

What's horrifying is how everything looks fine and then suddenly goes all
wrong.

I disagree Dan. When he lifts off you can see the end of the runway
near. Obviously he saw that as well. The initial wing rocking may
have been just after leaving ground effect at lower than optimal
airspeed.

That's just it: the speed looks fine and the airplane gives no appearance of
struggling into the air. The wing rocking and mushing come on suddenly,
almost as if the engine lost power or there was wind shear. There's something
strange about this accident.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:07:31 GMT, (Ron Lee)
wrote:


I disagree Dan. When he lifts off you can see the end of the runway
near. Obviously he saw that as well. The initial wing rocking may
have been just after leaving ground effect at lower than optimal
airspeed.

This all reminds me of that 182 on Youtube with the medical patient in
Africa that appears to be overweight.

I lost a friend, along with five of his relatives, when he tried to
depart Pullyaup, WA in an overweight Cherokee 6. His crash
description was exactly like the Youtube 182 and this Bo.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
...
This all reminds me of that 182 on Youtube with the medical patient in
Africa that appears to be overweight.

I lost a friend, along with five of his relatives, when he tried to
depart Pullyaup, WA in an overweight Cherokee 6. His crash
description was exactly like the Youtube 182 and this Bo.

Also, if you look at the video (as other folks have mentioned), his liftoff
was almost near the end of the runway (looks a little past the 1000 ft
marker). If you assume that he did not do an intersection departure, he must
have been rolling for about 3,000 feet by the time he rotated.

Marco