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Old September 1st 07, 04:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Morgans wrote:
"Airbus" wrote in message
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I'm voting for overweight.
After what appears to be a relativly long roll, you can see the plane
mushing
and stalling trying to climb.

I saw the video on a computer without sound, so I don't know if they said
how
many people were on board, but this plane, even with no flaps, should
climb out
just fine.


Three survivors and one dead, is what was said, along with a light wind
downwind takeoff. The pictures appeared to me to be anything but light,
from how much the trees were moving. My guess is 10 to 15 knots, with gusts
higher.


And wind slows as it nears the ground, so a 5 knot tailwind on the
runway, could well be increasing significantly with altitude. It will
be interesting to see the NTSB report.

Matt
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Old September 2nd 07, 04:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Matt Whiting" wrote

And wind slows as it nears the ground, so a 5 knot tailwind on the runway,
could well be increasing significantly with altitude.


Very true. I didn't quite put it all together (if it can be "all together"
until the full report is out) until you mentioned that.

If he did have decent take-off speed when he first lifted off, but was only
a few miles per hour above stall, when he climbed above the tree line and
had the full tail wind hit, that would have instantly reduced his speed to
below or at stall speed. With that in mind, if nose was raised at all (to
clear terrain), the increased deck angle would have reduced his speed to
well below stall, and the big bobbles began.

A real shame, all the way around, but it is a very unique opportunity for
others to learn some things that they may have forgotten, or never quite
learned at all. It isn't often you see the full anatomy of a plane crash,
like this one.
--
Jim in NC


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Old September 2nd 07, 04:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Default Bonanza crash caught on video

When I lost the engine and hit the bridge, my back seat passenger videotaped
the whole thing, right to the point where the airplane went upside down.

I watch it every now and again just to scare the living bejesus out of
myself.

Jim

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"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford


"Morgans" wrote in message
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A real shame, all the way around, but it is a very unique opportunity for
others to learn some things that they may have forgotten, or never quite
learned at all. It isn't often you see the full anatomy of a plane crash,
like this one.
--
Jim in NC



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Old September 2nd 07, 06:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Default Bonanza crash caught on video

RST Engineering wrote:
When I lost the engine and hit the bridge, my back seat passenger videotaped
the whole thing, right to the point where the airplane went upside down.

I watch it every now and again just to scare the living bejesus out of
myself.

Jim


Jim, is that something that you have made available or would be willing
to? Maybe it is on Jay's site, I haven't checked yet.

I'm trusting that the back seat pax was OK???

Matt
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Old September 2nd 07, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup to
do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.

The only casualties were the aforementioned video camera (bounced it off the
top of the airplane which by that time was the bottom, we did, we did) and a
severe ding on my watchband where it hit the mag key. Not a drop of blood
or a scratch on any of the four of us.

Of course, two of the miserable b@$!@rd$ claimed their sex life was ruined
and got my insurance company to dish out $100k and my airplane was beer
cans, but nothing else. The hell of it was that it was a charity flight to
raise money for a memorial to a cancer victim at the airport.

Jim

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--Henry Ford

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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I watch it every now and again just to scare the living bejesus out of
myself.

Jim


Jim, is that something that you have made available or would be willing
to? Maybe it is on Jay's site, I haven't checked yet.

I'm trusting that the back seat pax was OK???

Matt



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Old September 2nd 07, 07:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
karl gruber[_1_]
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Of course, two of the miserable b@$!@rd$ claimed their sex life was ruined
and got my insurance company to dish out $100k and my airplane was beer
cans, but nothing else. The hell of it was that it was a charity flight
to raise money for a memorial to a cancer victim at the airport.

Jim

If they can't think of ANYTHING else, it's "Loss of Consort."

Karl


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Old September 2nd 07, 08:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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RST Engineering wrote:

I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup to
do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.



The easiest way is to get a digital camcorder and plug that into your
A/V out on the VCR and record the tape as you play it. The camcorder
does all the work. After you've recorded it onto the camcorder you now
have it in digital form and can feed it into a computer or DVD recorder.
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Old September 2nd 07, 08:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Doug Semler
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"Newps" wrote in message
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RST Engineering wrote:

I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup
to do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.



The easiest way is to get a digital camcorder and plug that into your A/V
out on the VCR and record the tape as you play it. The camcorder does all
the work. After you've recorded it onto the camcorder you now have it in
digital form and can feed it into a computer or DVD recorder.



Wow. Why don't you suggest he converts it to BetaMax while he's at it?
Better suggestion, hook the VCR directly to a video capture card on a
computer or a DVD recorder...Not all camcorders are "digital" you know.

I would do it for you but I don't have a VHS VCR...

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Old September 2nd 07, 09:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"Newps" wrote in message
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RST Engineering wrote:

I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup
to do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.



The easiest way is to get a digital camcorder and plug that into your A/V
out on the VCR and record the tape as you play it. The camcorder does all
the work. After you've recorded it onto the camcorder you now have it in
digital form and can feed it into a computer or DVD recorder.


Save a couple steps and a lot of money (over the cost of a camcorder) by
getting something like the
Turtle Beach Video Advantage USB
http://www.pricescan.com/items/item165805.asp

Even if you already have a camcorder, the TB box comes with some great
editing software.

In a couple of afternoons & evenings, we converted several old VHS camcorder
tapes of the kids when very young to digital format and then burned them to
DVDs.

We now have lots of good video to embarrass them when they get married and
have their own kids.


--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY



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Old September 2nd 07, 09:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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Default Bonanza crash caught on video


"RST Engineering"

wrote in message ...
I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup
to do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.


E-mail coming to you on back channels, Jim. I'll include "Digitize Video
Tape" in the subject line.
--
Jim in NC


 




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