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On 29 Sep 2003 19:49:55 -0700, Steyr wrote:

I spoke to some Brits in North Belfast last year and they told us that their new
rifle was 'complete crap'. I think they were detached from a field gun
formation, possibbly Royal Artillery. The Welch Fusilers were in the same area.

Bear in mind a non-infantry unit going out on roulement to NI oppress
you on your way to the newsie's to get your regular "Aeroplane
Spotter" will be last on the list for the A2 version. All the
refitted A2's will have gone to Iraq, as the main focus of Treasury
approved-MoD spending, even if they haven't sent any water, tents or
generators. It will of course be a matter of critical importance to
the average citizen of Basra that the troops ordering them into queues
for collecting drinking water will have the A2 as opposed to the A1
version. They might feel a little let down and question coalition
priorities if they knew it was the latter.

A teenager from the Welch was blown up by a UDA frag device a few days
previously. I have no opinion on the SA80 matter other than to note that I've
not actually encountered a favourable review of the weapon from a serving
soldier.

I always wanted to know why it was just as heavy as the SLR.

The Brits were stuck in a Saxon APC and had to eat, **** and pee in the darn
contraption which looks more like an armoured telephone repair van rather than a
real APC. I thought it looked like a relic from the 1950s.

You seem unfamiliar with standard MoD APC procurement policy in regard
to the Saxon, which ran along the lines of "find a Leyland production
line that needs to be kept open after losing their markets to the
Germans, and stick some armour on it".

Gavin Bailey


The Ferret armoured car was clearly the greatest golf buggie ever invented,
however it was a little too under-armed for use in Florida.

The Saxon is like a bloody big electricity box on wheels. It is like a
fairground tractor-generator.

"Steyr" wrote in message
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The Ferret armoured car was clearly the greatest golf buggie ever
invented,
however it was a little too under-armed for use in Florida.

I met a Ferret for the first time in 1973 as I stood sentry at the
entrance to a battery position on a cloudy, moonless night on the edge of
a forest. The little bugger came out of the woods and was able to get
within less than 10 metres before I could hear it (and what I heard was
mostly the "crunch" of gravel under its tires). Possibly the best
sneak-and-peek recce vehicle ever built.
--
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"Steyr" wrote in message
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The Ferret armoured car was clearly the greatest golf buggie ever
invented,
however it was a little too under-armed for use in Florida.

I met a Ferret for the first time in 1973 as I stood sentry at the
entrance to a battery position on a cloudy, moonless night on the edge of
a forest. The little bugger came out of the woods and was able to get
within less than 10 metres before I could hear it (and what I heard was
mostly the "crunch" of gravel under its tires). Possibly the best
sneak-and-peek recce vehicle ever built.


They are a very cute little vehicle. I have seen them disabled in
ambushes without too much difficulty. Even children can stop them if
they have lots of paint and a few big bricks.

They also tended to stop at Zebra crossings as a matter of routine.

Their drivers tended to be more polite than the Saracen and Humber Pig
drivers. The Saladins were the most fun to attack as they simply drove
through the hail of paint bombs and bricks without stopping to chase
the kids away.

lisieux wrote:

They are a very cute little vehicle. I have seen them disabled in
ambushes without too much difficulty. Even children can stop them if
they have lots of paint and a few big bricks.

They also tended to stop at Zebra crossings as a matter of routine.

Their drivers tended to be more polite than the Saracen and Humber Pig
drivers. The Saladins were the most fun to attack as they simply drove
through the hail of paint bombs and bricks without stopping to chase
the kids away.

I never saw them in an urban situation, except on display outside
armouries after their retirement and an occasional patrol by the Force
Reserve through the suburbs of Nicosia. They were quite tricky to
drive in snow as they could high-centre on the belly plate and wind up
with no traction under any wheel. At the same time, because of their
transmission and transfer case design, if they had one wheel on the
ground that could still drive they could usually keep moving.

The Canadian versions I saw had no turret (they were hell in winter)
so I am sure their drivers would have been really polite.
--
Andrew Chaplin
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On 2 Oct 2003 02:28:18 -0700, (lisieux) wrote:

They are a very cute little vehicle. I have seen them disabled in
ambushes without too much difficulty.

Going by the standard of driving displayed by most recce troop drivers
I saw, this wouldn't be too difficult as they loved to pile their
vehicles into random ditches, culverts and hedges with gay abandon.
And that was before they found the reverse gear.

Even children can stop them if
they have lots of paint and a few big bricks.

They also tended to stop at Zebra crossings as a matter of routine.

Another cunning Fenian ploy unmasked. First, paint a zebra crossing
on the road to stop the enemy armour...

Their drivers tended to be more polite than the Saracen and Humber Pig
drivers. The Saladins were the most fun to attack as they simply drove
through the hail of paint bombs and bricks without stopping to chase
the kids away.

My favourite was the Fox, with a centre of gravity so high that it
would overturn on any sharp corner and squish the vehicle commander if
he was perching on the turrent roof to escape the stench of the
driver's socks in the main compartment as per usual. I talked my way
into driving a Scimitar down Colchester high street once. That was
fun. As was parking it at the Little Chef for lunch.

Gavin Bailey

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The Revolution Will Not Be Televised wrote:
On 2 Oct 2003 02:28:18 -0700, (lisieux) wrote:
into driving a Scimitar down Colchester high street once. That was
fun. As was parking it at the Little Chef for lunch.

Wouldn't parking it *on* the Little Chef have been a better culinary decision?

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On 2 Oct 2003 14:54:59 +0100, (ANDREW ROBERT BREEN)
wrote:

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised wrote:
On 2 Oct 2003 02:28:18 -0700, (lisieux) wrote:
into driving a Scimitar down Colchester high street once. That was
fun. As was parking it at the Little Chef for lunch.

Wouldn't parking it *on* the Little Chef have been a better culinary decision?

After several days on compo, overpriced spicy chicken fillets and
chips was manna from heaven, believe me.

Gavin Bailey
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The Revolution Will Not Be Televised wrote:

My favourite was the Fox, with a centre of gravity so high that it
would overturn on any sharp corner and squish the vehicle commander if
he was perching on the turrent roof to escape the stench of the
driver's socks in the main compartment as per usual. I talked my way
into driving a Scimitar down Colchester high street once. That was
fun. As was parking it at the Little Chef for lunch.

Mum always found it strange that tank drivers (no doubt the commanders)
would pull up at the traffic lights and would sit there waiting to do a
right turn with their arm out, stiff as a brush, like a schoolkid doing the
cycling proficiency test.

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:00:47 +0100, "James Hart"
wrote:

Mum always found it strange that tank drivers (no doubt the commanders)
would pull up at the traffic lights and would sit there waiting to do a
right turn with their arm out, stiff as a brush, like a schoolkid doing the
cycling proficiency test.

It was revealing to see how few car drivers actually understood the
Highway Code arm gestures, and was funnier to see their faces when
they suddenly realised that their ignorance was going to pile them
into the side of a tank.* Having said that, it had army landie effect
in the traffic stream: drivers suddenly became less aggressive and
left a reasonable amount of space to avoid their precious cars getting
squished and dented. Although, to be fair, a CVRT in stop-start
traffic rocks backards a forwards quite a bit which can confuse people
anticipating the queue moving forwards.

Gavin Bailey

* I use the word in the loosest possible context to include the
Scimitar.
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"Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message
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"Steyr" wrote in message
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The Ferret armoured car was clearly the greatest golf buggie ever
invented,
however it was a little too under-armed for use in Florida.

I met a Ferret for the first time in 1973 as I stood sentry at the
entrance to a battery position on a cloudy, moonless night on the edge
of
a forest. The little bugger came out of the woods and was able to get
within less than 10 metres before I could hear it (and what I heard was
mostly the "crunch" of gravel under its tires). Possibly the best
sneak-and-peek recce vehicle ever built.


They are a very cute little vehicle. I have seen them disabled in
ambushes without too much difficulty. Even children can stop them if
they have lots of paint and a few big bricks.

They also tended to stop at Zebra crossings as a matter of routine.

Their drivers tended to be more polite than the Saracen and Humber Pig
drivers. The Saladins were the most fun to attack as they simply drove
through the hail of paint bombs and bricks without stopping to chase
the kids away.

Why on earth would a ferret enter into a zebra crossing, surely it would get
trampled. You know those zebras can get pretty big don't you?


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