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Old September 6th 07, 11:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default ELT Message From FAA

In rec.aviation.owning RST Engineering wrote:
Termination of 121.5 MHz Beacons for Satellite Alerting is Coming Soon
Notice Number: NOTC0981


We all knew (or should have) this was coming.

Anyone know current prices on the 400 MHz replacements?

The annual is due this month, and assuming no surprises:

Option 1: Replace the ELT now.

Option 2: Upgrade something else and wait until next year and hope
the prices go down.

--
Jim Pennino

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Old September 7th 07, 02:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Default ELT Message From FAA

On 9/6/2007 6:34:59 PM, wrote:

Anyone know current prices on the 400 MHz replacements?


I had to replace my ELT about four months ago and at the time the only 400MHz
ELT that I could locate was Artex's model. The price back in May was around
US $1,100 for the unit.

After a phone conversation with an ACK representative and given that I carry
a McMurdo handheld PLB with GPS in the aircraft, I opted to purchase an ACK
E-01 121.5 MHz for US $210 and wait for their 400 MHz unit, which is supposed
to be significantly cheaper than Artex's unit and will drop right into the
same mounting bracket as the E-01.

--
Peter
  #3  
Old September 7th 07, 06:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Lee[_2_]
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Default ELT Message From FAA

"Peter R." wrote:

On 9/6/2007 6:34:59 PM, wrote:

Anyone know current prices on the 400 MHz replacements?


I had to replace my ELT about four months ago and at the time the only 400MHz
ELT that I could locate was Artex's model. The price back in May was around
US $1,100 for the unit.

After a phone conversation with an ACK representative and given that I carry
a McMurdo handheld PLB with GPS in the aircraft, I opted to purchase an ACK
E-01 121.5 MHz for US $210 and wait for their 400 MHz unit, which is supposed
to be significantly cheaper than Artex's unit and will drop right into the
same mounting bracket as the E-01.

--
Peter


I also have the McMurdo Fastfind Plus PLB.

Ron Lee
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Old September 7th 07, 04:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Noel
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Default ELT Message From FAA

I got a McMurdo Fastfind Plus PLB about 2 years ago because I was going to
be flying over the same Nevada countryside where SF disappeared. I'll
upgrade to a 406 MHz ELT as suggested by FAA. No need to die while waiting
for someone to hear a 121.5 beacon.

--
Best Regards,
Mike

http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel

A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
"Peter R." wrote:

On 9/6/2007 6:34:59 PM, wrote:

Anyone know current prices on the 400 MHz replacements?


I had to replace my ELT about four months ago and at the time the only
400MHz
ELT that I could locate was Artex's model. The price back in May was
around
US $1,100 for the unit.

After a phone conversation with an ACK representative and given that I
carry
a McMurdo handheld PLB with GPS in the aircraft, I opted to purchase an
ACK
E-01 121.5 MHz for US $210 and wait for their 400 MHz unit, which is
supposed
to be significantly cheaper than Artex's unit and will drop right into the
same mounting bracket as the E-01.

--
Peter


I also have the McMurdo Fastfind Plus PLB.

Ron Lee



  #5  
Old September 7th 07, 05:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Stuart & Kathryn Fields
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Default ELT Message From FAA

Not too long ago, a friend of mine had an off airport landing in his
helicopter, better make that a crash. His helicopter was destroyed on a
hill with a direct line of sight to the local airport. He suffered only a
sprain but had to walk out several miles to get cell phone coverage. All
this time the ELT was pinging away. When we got to the crash site several
hours later, we turned the ELT off. No one responded to the ELT signal. It
seems that he had been carrying around a device that is normally ignored due
to its false alarm rate. Since the ELTs are not required on aircraft, just
airplanes, I've removed mine and depend on the cell phone and my legs. I
think that my friends ELT provided just a false sense of security and in his
particular case, nothing else.

--
Stuart & Kathryn Fields, Publishers
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478 ph
(760) 408-9747 publication cell
(760) 608-1299 technical cell
www.experimentalhelo.com
www.vkss.com


"Mike Noel" wrote in message
...
I got a McMurdo Fastfind Plus PLB about 2 years ago because I was going to
be flying over the same Nevada countryside where SF disappeared. I'll
upgrade to a 406 MHz ELT as suggested by FAA. No need to die while waiting
for someone to hear a 121.5 beacon.

--
Best Regards,
Mike

http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel

A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
"Peter R." wrote:

On 9/6/2007 6:34:59 PM, wrote:

Anyone know current prices on the 400 MHz replacements?

I had to replace my ELT about four months ago and at the time the only
400MHz
ELT that I could locate was Artex's model. The price back in May was
around
US $1,100 for the unit.

After a phone conversation with an ACK representative and given that I
carry
a McMurdo handheld PLB with GPS in the aircraft, I opted to purchase an
ACK
E-01 121.5 MHz for US $210 and wait for their 400 MHz unit, which is
supposed
to be significantly cheaper than Artex's unit and will drop right into
the
same mounting bracket as the E-01.

--
Peter


I also have the McMurdo Fastfind Plus PLB.

Ron Lee





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Old September 7th 07, 07:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
NoneYa
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Default ELT Message From FAA

Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote:
Not too long ago, a friend of mine had an off airport landing in his
helicopter, better make that a crash. His helicopter was destroyed on a
hill with a direct line of sight to the local airport. He suffered only a
sprain but had to walk out several miles to get cell phone coverage. All
this time the ELT was pinging away. When we got to the crash site several
hours later, we turned the ELT off. No one responded to the ELT signal. It
seems that he had been carrying around a device that is normally ignored due
to its false alarm rate. Since the ELTs are not required on aircraft, just
airplanes, I've removed mine and depend on the cell phone and my legs. I
think that my friends ELT provided just a false sense of security and in his
particular case, nothing else.



FAA Technicians and/or the FCC did respond all the time to
ELT signals. FAA staffing is no longer available because all
of the FAA technicians have been replaced by the new FAA
with big bubble butt black women on civil rights staffs
hanging out on the phone or at the local KFC ****ing off on
your IRS tax dime

That is why FAA ELT response has stopped. FAA priorities
have changed from aviation safety to "Kissing the Black
Ass". The false alarm scenario is bull**** to cover for
their ****ed up priorities and reduced staffing.
  #7  
Old September 7th 07, 08:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Dan[_2_]
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Default ELT Message From FAA

NoneYa wrote:
Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote:
Not too long ago, a friend of mine had an off airport landing in his
helicopter, better make that a crash. His helicopter was destroyed on
a hill with a direct line of sight to the local airport. He suffered
only a sprain but had to walk out several miles to get cell phone
coverage. All this time the ELT was pinging away. When we got to the
crash site several hours later, we turned the ELT off. No one
responded to the ELT signal. It seems that he had been carrying
around a device that is normally ignored due to its false alarm rate.
Since the ELTs are not required on aircraft, just airplanes, I've
removed mine and depend on the cell phone and my legs. I think that
my friends ELT provided just a false sense of security and in his
particular case, nothing else.



FAA Technicians and/or the FCC did respond all the time to ELT signals.
FAA staffing is no longer available because all of the FAA technicians
have been replaced by the new FAA with big bubble butt black women on
civil rights staffs hanging out on the phone or at the local KFC ****ing
off on your IRS tax dime

That is why FAA ELT response has stopped. FAA priorities have changed
from aviation safety to "Kissing the Black Ass". The false alarm
scenario is bull**** to cover for their ****ed up priorities and reduced
staffing.


How long have you been lusting after large black girls?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old September 8th 07, 02:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
David G. Nagel
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Default ELT Message From FAA

Sorry to disapoint you but the FAA does not and never did respond to ELT
signals. The flight service station people do check airports for lost
and missing or overdue aircraft but the search is left to the US Coast
Guard if the elt is wet and the US Air Force/Civil Air Patrol if dry.

Both organizations continue to respond to any and all ELT/EPIRB signals.
This mission will not change with the closure of COSPAS/SARSAT. The 406
mhz signals will provice quicker, more precise position reports that
will result in more rescues and fewer errors.

Dave N

NoneYa wrote:
Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote:

Not too long ago, a friend of mine had an off airport landing in his
helicopter, better make that a crash. His helicopter was destroyed on
a hill with a direct line of sight to the local airport. He suffered
only a sprain but had to walk out several miles to get cell phone
coverage. All this time the ELT was pinging away. When we got to the
crash site several hours later, we turned the ELT off. No one
responded to the ELT signal. It seems that he had been carrying
around a device that is normally ignored due to its false alarm rate.
Since the ELTs are not required on aircraft, just airplanes, I've
removed mine and depend on the cell phone and my legs. I think that
my friends ELT provided just a false sense of security and in his
particular case, nothing else.



FAA Technicians and/or the FCC did respond all the time to ELT signals.
FAA staffing is no longer available because all of the FAA technicians
have been replaced by the new FAA with big bubble butt black women on
civil rights staffs hanging out on the phone or at the local KFC ****ing
off on your IRS tax dime

That is why FAA ELT response has stopped. FAA priorities have changed
from aviation safety to "Kissing the Black Ass". The false alarm
scenario is bull**** to cover for their ****ed up priorities and reduced
staffing.


  #10  
Old September 7th 07, 01:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Denny
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Default ELT Message From FAA

On Sep 7, 6:08 am, Ron Natalie wrote:
wrote:
In rec.aviation.owning RST Engineering wrote:
Termination of 121.5 MHz Beacons for Satellite Alerting is Coming Soon
Notice Number: NOTC0981


We all knew (or should have) this was coming.


Anyone know current prices on the 400 MHz replacements?


In typical Aviaton style, inordinately expensive. A top of the line
water activated, GPS enabled, marine EPIRB is $1000. The minimum
LEGAL replacement for the old TSOC C91 elts is $1600 or so (there
are some cheaper ones but they lack the G switch). If you want the
NAV reporting feature, it will cost you $3600 and you have to provide
the GPS elsewhere in the plane.


The regs do not require replacement of the ELT 121.5 units... Save
your money, install new batteries at the annual, and keep on
trucking...

denny

 




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