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Old September 12th 07, 04:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Bonanza crash caught on video

Those useful load figures are for the new G36, they're as much
overweight as your new Cessna 206's. 2700 pound empty weight? That's
pathetic. The A36's had a typical empty weight of 1980-2050 so the
useful came in at around 1550. So looks like he was under gross, even
if the Bo was heavier than normal.




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M wrote:

The NTSB preliminary is out:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...10X01354&key=1


So, given the 271 lbs of baggage and at least 360 lbs of fuel, what does
this leave for the 4 passengers weight-wise?

Wow, 107 degrees. That certainly didn't help.



Not knowing the exact figures of that particular airplane, it is hard to
tell, but I found a figure of 1063 pounds useful load at
http://www.raytheonaircraft.com/beechcraft/aircraft/pistons/bonanzag36/specifications.aspx

1063-360-271 leaves 432 pounds for 4 people. 4 people at 170 pounds should
weigh 680 pounds. 432-680= -248 pounds overweight. 3650+248=3898.
3898/3650=1.0679 of the recommended maximum takeoff weight.

Is that a substantial amount overweight? It would seem like it, to me.
Especially at a temperature of 107 degrees.

How about you?

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Old September 12th 07, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Not knowing the exact figures of that particular airplane, it is hard to
tell, but I found a figure of 1063 pounds useful load at
http://www.raytheonaircraft.com/beechcraft/aircraft/pistons/bonanzag3...


1063-360-271 leaves 432 pounds for 4 people. 4 people at 170 pounds should
weigh 680 pounds. 432-680= -248 pounds overweight. 3650+248=3898.
3898/3650=1.0679 of the recommended maximum takeoff weight.


Is that a substantial amount overweight? It would seem like it, to me.
Especially at a temperature of 107 degrees.


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I ran the numbers through this calculator and it doesn't look like he
was over-gross:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/a36bonanzawbcalc.html

The density altitude was 4592 feet, which would have had some impact
on climb performance, but he still should have been able to climb at a
decent rate. I wonder if the prop control was set correctly for take-
off?

 




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