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In the experiment of Apr 44 (See Report 2/32), PW stated that, when
the rats were bombarded by the rays, a phosphorescent glow was
observed over their bodies, lasting about a fifth of a second. PW
believed that the rats were reduced to a gaseous sodium (?) which had
been drawn into the vacuum system of the test stand.

Mad as a badger.

- all information from Henry Stevens "Hitler's Suppressed and Still-
Secret Weapons, Science, and Technology" (2007) filled with
declassified information

Also the author of the astounding 'Hitler's Flying Saucers'.


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William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Sep 15, 11:16?am, "William Black"
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In the experiment of Apr 44 (See Report 2/32), PW stated that, when
the rats were bombarded by the rays, a phosphorescent glow was
observed over their bodies, lasting about a fifth of a second. PW
believed that the rats were reduced to a gaseous sodium (?) which had
been drawn into the vacuum system of the test stand.

Mad as a badger.

- all information from Henry Stevens "Hitler's Suppressed and Still-
Secret Weapons, Science, and Technology" (2007) filled with
declassified information

Also the author of the astounding 'Hitler's Flying Saucers'.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

So you do not accept US Government declassified intel documents even
when they are presented to you?

As for PW's statements on the rats, the (?) refers to a total lack of
understanding of how such a weapon could function and what the
disintegration result was. This was 1945 and neither the PW nor the
interrogators knew the technologies involved with any of these type
weapons.

Imagine yourself seeing an alien beam weapon in action and then
interrogated. How would your testimony differ from PW and what
conclusions would interrogators come to?

Also, ELEMAG's documents on construction of Magnetic Wave weapon are
all reproduced in the book along with as many declassified documents
as Stevens could get under FOIA using US terminology of German weapons
which had eluded researchers who tried in vain for six decades to use
the correct German terminology. Now that the US Govt. trick for hiding
these weapons is known, many new types of German weapons have
surfaced.

For aviation content, the enigmatic Zippermayer Pfeil arrow-wing
aircraft is finally depicted in that book along with its status in May
1945 at Lofer (hidden in the Hagen carpenter shop, 3/4s completed). It
was secretly taken back to the US and completed. Dropped from a B-29
with US markings, its potential supersonic wing was evaluated in 1947
after wind tunnel testing. There are also depictions of US Army troops
testing out Zippermayer's model catapults for the aircraft in 1945.
This was a wooden glider with a two-man cockpit that placed an arrow-
wing directly behind and above the fuselage the whole way back to the
tail. The improved wooden test version would have had a Porsche
109-005 jet engine of 1,300 lb thrust while the production metal
version would have had another Porsche turbojet of approx. 2,500 lb
st.

All very fascinating, but disposition of the aircraft after testing is
not known (rest of US files suspiciously missing).

ZXY

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On Sep 15, 11:16?am, "William Black"

So you do not accept US Government declassified intel documents even
when they are presented to you?

Oh yes.

Point me to a URL.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Sep 15, 1:49?pm, "William Black"
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On Sep 15, 11:16?am, "William Black"
So you do not accept US Government declassified intel documents even
when they are presented to you?

Oh yes.

Point me to a URL.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Are you stupid or something? I gave you the entire report number. Go
through FOIA procedures like Stevens did or buy his book with the
intel copies from the microfilm printed in the book.

ZXY

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On Sep 15, 1:49?pm, "William Black"
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On Sep 15, 11:16?am, "William Black"
So you do not accept US Government declassified intel documents even
when they are presented to you?

Oh yes.

Point me to a URL.



Are you stupid or something?

So that's a 'no' then...

Look, have you any idea just how significant and important all this stuff
is?

Nobel prizes were dished out and vast sums of money spent on the fundamental
research that you and your mate claim was all done in about ten minutes, by
some Nazis in tucked away in a back room somewhere, between designing the VI
and building a flying saucer.

Next loon please...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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On Sep 15, 1:49?pm, "William Black"
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On Sep 15, 11:16?am, "William Black"
So you do not accept US Government declassified intel documents even
when they are presented to you?

Oh yes.

Point me to a URL.

Are you stupid or something?

So that's a 'no' then...

Look, have you any idea just how significant and important all this stuff
is?

Nobel prizes were dished out and vast sums of money spent on the fundamental
research that you and your mate claim was all done in about ten minutes, by
some Nazis in tucked away in a back room somewhere, between designing the VI
and building a flying saucer.

Next loon please...

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.- Hide quoted text -

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Mr.Black you are just ****ed off that you are proven wrong probably by
your own government which, btw, kept and still keeps classified German
technology documents ranging from synthetic fuel, to aviation secrets,
to beam weaponry, and spaceflight, plus the entire hidden history of
the war locked away.

You can also now locate Foo Fighters, which the USAF claimed they had
no idea what they were, under PHOO BOMBS through FOIA and dated from
1944.

Also have the inmtelligence to call a German disc a Flugscheibe or
Flugkreisel and NOT a flying saucer- a term coined in 1947 by a
reporter.

ZXY

ZXY

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Mr.Black you are just ****ed off that you are proven wrong probably by
your own government which, btw, kept and still keeps classified German
technology documents ranging from synthetic fuel, to aviation secrets,
to beam weaponry, and spaceflight, plus the entire hidden history of
the war locked away.

No they don't.

Very few WWII documents are still secret in the UK and these relate almost
entirly to matters involving treason or disloyalty by people still alive.

If the Nazis had a death ray mounted on a flying saucer, even one, we'd all
be speaking German and wearing silly uniforms by now.

You can also now locate Foo Fighters, which the USAF claimed they had
no idea what they were, under PHOO BOMBS through FOIA and dated from
1944.

The major problem with this one is that the Germans were also designing what
seem to be massivly inferior missile based air to air weapons and deploying
them very late in the war.

If you've got a war winning design then why bother to develop something
inferior?

The history of the R4M indicates that there was nothing better available.

Reading the report "An Evalualtion of German Capabilities in 1945" from the
'Office of the Director of Intelligence' of the US Strategic Airforces in
Europe, which was written some time in early 1945, makes it pretty clear
that what were called Phoo Bombs by bomber crews were in fact Messerschnitt
Me163 Komet aircraft

Also have the inmtelligence to call a German disc a Flugscheibe or
Flugkreisel and NOT a flying saucer- a term coined in 1947 by a
reporter.

The problem is, once more, that both the Germans and the USA were building
'flying wings'.

The Ho-IX was a jet powered fighter bomber aircraft (made of wood) but was
preceded by the Northrop N-1M by some four years.

The 'flying wing' idea isn't new either.

See
http://www.century-of-flight.net/Avi...e_interwar.htm
for loads of details.

These damn things aren't a Nazi invention, were never particularly secret
and aren't that radical in performance. Look up the 'Edwards' who the
'Edwards Airforce Base' is named after and what he was flying when he
died...

What you're seeing is initial evaluations by an intelligence service that is
trying to guess what's going on 'on the other side of the hill' from reports
brought back be people in a highly emotional state who weren't intelligence
officers, and, reasonably understandably, slightly misinterpreting the
results.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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On Sep 15, 1:49?pm, "William Black"
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On Sep 15, 11:16?am, "William Black"
So you do not accept US Government declassified intel documents even
when they are presented to you?

Oh yes.

Point me to a URL.



Are you stupid or something?

So that's a 'no' then...

Look, have you any idea just how significant and important all this stuff
is?

Nobel prizes were dished out and vast sums of money spent on the
fundamental research that you and your mate claim was all done in about
ten minutes, by some Nazis in tucked away in a back room somewhere,
between designing the VI and building a flying saucer.

Next loon please...


Koos is due to make a re-appearance within the hour.

Ah! No, I'm wrong.

He schedules his arrival on S. African time to capture Eugene's attention.

- nilita