How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:25:59 -0700, Billiam Davis wrote:

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:55:31 -0400, Rudy P wrote:

I have a plane,not sure if on the ground. Please if others could check.
LAT.38.698404 LON.-119.037355 Rudy.

Here is a what a possible crash site looks like.
http://maps.google.com/?q=39.070750,-119.490250

If you tilt this possible airplane crash site in
Google Earth, you can see it's near the crest of a
gentle slope where the white car-sized object
appears to have slid into the top of the hill from
the east and lay itself to rest on the crest of the
hill.

This kind of underscores the fact you need to search
with some topography available to you.

Does Amazon's Mechanical Turk show topography?
Or only Google Earth?

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:32:29 -0700, Billiam Davis wrote in :

... This kind of underscores the fact you need to search
with some topography available to you.

Does Amazon's Mechanical Turk show topography?

No.

But each hit comes with a latitude/longitude specification
that may be cut and pasted into Google Earth for further
review.

Marty
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:15:54 -0700, Billiam Davis wrote in
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:05:54 -0700, John Tyson wrote:

The files I was referring to were the GeoEye imagery you get by following
the kml link in the message that started this thread, and the Digital Globe
imagery you get by following the kml link on the Mechanical Turk webpage.

Can someone summarize what the latest KML files are?

Checking this page:

http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?g...G35XEZJZG21T60

I copied this link:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/Fossett-DG/DG/index.kml

I think that should load the relevant satellite imagery.

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Can someone explain why it is necessary to open an account with Amazon
before you can participate in the search?

Thanks.


Because Amazon is paying for it

Looks like mine tailings, especially since it's on a road with several other
mine sites.



"Billiam Davis" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:25:59 -0700, Billiam Davis wrote:

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:55:31 -0400, Rudy P wrote:

I have a plane,not sure if on the ground. Please if others could check.
LAT.38.698404 LON.-119.037355 Rudy.

Here is a what a possible crash site looks like.
http://maps.google.com/?q=39.070750,-119.490250

If you tilt this possible airplane crash site in
Google Earth, you can see it's near the crest of a
gentle slope where the white car-sized object
appears to have slid into the top of the hill from
the east and lay itself to rest on the crest of the
hill.

This kind of underscores the fact you need to search
with some topography available to you.

Does Amazon's Mechanical Turk show topography?
Or only Google Earth?

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:04:17 -0400, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote in :


Can someone explain why it is necessary to open an account with Amazon
before you can participate in the search?

1. Because it may help discourage vandals.

Unfortunately, it's not discouraging the clueless from disrupting the
CAP SAR operations:


FOSSETT "FREELANCERS" SPARK TFR
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196145)
The FAA has imposed a temporary flight restriction
(http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_7_7172.html) over the area
being searched for Steve Fossett after a the pilot of a privately
owned aircraft not formally engaged in the search began an
impromptu sweep of the area on Friday. According to an Associated
Press
(http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/15....ap/index.html)
report, the pilot was contacted and told whoever contacted him
that he was trying to claim a $10,000 reward offered on the social
networking Web site YouChoose.net
(http://www.youchoose.net/campaign/he..._steve_fossett) for
information leading to the discovery of Fossett. However, getting
some stick time over the Nevada wilderness wasn't what
YouChoose.net had in mind, nor did it please searchers.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196145


http://www.youchoose.net/campaign/he..._steve_fossett
YOUCHOOSE.NET OFFERS A $10,000 REWARD TO THE FIRST YOUCHOOSE
MEMBER WHO PROVIDES INFORMATION LEADING TO THE RESCUE OF STEVE
FOSSETT. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE!




http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_7_7172.html
NOTAM Number : FDC 7/7172
Issue Date : September 15, 2007 at 2026 UTC
Location : Oakland Center, 30 W of Coaldale, Nevada
Beginning Date and Time : September 15, 2007 at 2200 UTC
Ending Date and Time : September 16, 2007 at 0230 UTC
Reason for NOTAM : To provide a safe environment for search and
rescue operations.
Type : Hazards
Replaced NOTAM(s) : N/A
Pilots May Contact : System Operations Support (ZOA) Center,
202-493-5107

Jump To: Affected Areas
Operating Restrictions and Requirements
Other Information


Affected Area(s) Top

Airspace Definition:
Region bounded by:
Latitude: Longitude:
38º30'00"N 119º00'00"W
38º30'00"N 118º30'00"W
37º45'00"N 118º30'00"W
37º45'00"N 119º00'00"W
38º30'00"N 119º00'00"W

Altitude: From the surface up to and including 2000 feet MSL
Effective Date(s):
From September 15, 2007 at 2200 UTC
To September 16, 2007 at 0230 UTC

Operating Restrictions and Requirements Top

No pilots may operate an aircraft in the areas covered by this
NOTAM (except as described).

Only relief aircraft operations under the direction of the
Incident Commander are authorized in the airspace.

Aircraft may land and depart airports within the airspace CAP


Other Information: Top
ARTCC: ZOA - Oakland Center
Point of Contact: CAP Incident Commander
Telephone 775-782-6260
Authority: Title 14 CFR section 91.137(a)(3)

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Billiam Davis wrote:
Here is a what a possible crash site, just outside the
Steve Fossett search area, looks like.

There are supposed to be some confirmed crash sites that have been found as
part of the Steve Fossett search. Does anyone know the coordinates of
those?

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:07:10 +0000, miket6065 wrote:

10. If you want, they also give you coordinates such as
"38.117852,-119.279851" which you can then go back and paste into the
Google Earth tool to look at the same location and zoom around using the
Google Earth software.

I think these are the three updated search areas (outlined in red)
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rchareanr9.jpg

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:13:27 +0000, Sandra Baker wrote:

The files aren't additive, but they overlap; I think the best bet is
to have both loaded, but make sure the new one is being used if the
HIT is located within it (uncheck the box for the first file).

Are you SURE the files overlap?

Of the three satellite photograph updates for the Steve Fossett search,
apparently two overlap and one is purely additive.

The image below shows the three search areas, each outlined in red.
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rchareanr9.jpg

"Billiam Davis" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:07:10 +0000, miket6065 wrote:

10. If you want, they also give you coordinates such as
"38.117852,-119.279851" which you can then go back and paste into the
Google Earth tool to look at the same location and zoom around using the
Google Earth software.

I think these are the three updated search areas (outlined in red)
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rchareanr9.jpg

I noticed tonight the Mechanical Turk site has added two more areas of
GeoEye imagery, to the west and south of the earlier three. Lots of cloud
cover in the one to the west, and some large registration errors (1500 feet
at one point I checked). These seem to be the areas where the latest HITS
are located.

John