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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Yeah, you're right. As these guys die off the world will never see
the likes of them again. I really miss the good ole' common sense
people we had in aviation way back when.

Few left, not many. They're more interested in flying Nintendos that
are wafting around these days than real airplanes, and people, I
guess

Bertie
I took a J3 all the way down the East coast to Key West once. Lowered
the side door panel and flew the beaches down low. At Hilton Head I
throttled back and traded "hello's" with a young couple on the beach
as I went by.
Man, you can't BUY those days again :-))




You can still do it. Some guys still do! I still fly little ones (well, not
lately, but when I get the contraption in the shed finished I will)
Great fun though. I remember flying my T-craft right over the top of PHL,
no radio, watching the jet airliners taking off underneath me. (dating
myself now)

Bertie


Neat little bird that T Craft. Could float a bit for the guys coming out
of a J3 into it for the first time :-)
I still believe the only thing that ended Duane Cole's run in
competition was the low power factor on his clipped wing T Craft. He
just couldn't get the vertical performance he needed to stay
competitive, but his air show work was absolutely amazing in that little
bird.




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Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Yeah, you're right. As these guys die off the world will never see
the likes of them again. I really miss the good ole' common sense
people we had in aviation way back when.

Few left, not many. They're more interested in flying Nintendos
that are wafting around these days than real airplanes, and people,
I guess

Bertie
I took a J3 all the way down the East coast to Key West once.
Lowered the side door panel and flew the beaches down low. At Hilton
Head I throttled back and traded "hello's" with a young couple on
the beach as I went by.
Man, you can't BUY those days again :-))




You can still do it. Some guys still do! I still fly little ones
(well, not lately, but when I get the contraption in the shed
finished I will) Great fun though. I remember flying my T-craft right
over the top of PHL, no radio, watching the jet airliners taking off
underneath me. (dating myself now)

Bertie


Neat little bird that T Craft. Could float a bit for the guys coming
out of a J3 into it for the first time :-)
I still believe the only thing that ended Duane Cole's run in
competition was the low power factor on his clipped wing T Craft. He
just couldn't get the vertical performance he needed to stay
competitive, but his air show work was absolutely amazing in that
little bird.



Yeah, I've always hankered after a clipped t-craft. He's still the best
I've ever seen. Had a few a-65 powered airplanes over the years and
that was one of the best. Loved my Luscombes the best, though.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Yeah, you're right. As these guys die off the world will never see
the likes of them again. I really miss the good ole' common sense
people we had in aviation way back when.
Few left, not many. They're more interested in flying Nintendos
that are wafting around these days than real airplanes, and people,
I guess

Bertie
I took a J3 all the way down the East coast to Key West once.
Lowered the side door panel and flew the beaches down low. At Hilton
Head I throttled back and traded "hello's" with a young couple on
the beach as I went by.
Man, you can't BUY those days again :-))



You can still do it. Some guys still do! I still fly little ones
(well, not lately, but when I get the contraption in the shed
finished I will) Great fun though. I remember flying my T-craft right
over the top of PHL, no radio, watching the jet airliners taking off
underneath me. (dating myself now)

Bertie

Neat little bird that T Craft. Could float a bit for the guys coming
out of a J3 into it for the first time :-)
I still believe the only thing that ended Duane Cole's run in
competition was the low power factor on his clipped wing T Craft. He
just couldn't get the vertical performance he needed to stay
competitive, but his air show work was absolutely amazing in that
little bird.



Yeah, I've always hankered after a clipped t-craft. He's still the best
I've ever seen. Had a few a-65 powered airplanes over the years and
that was one of the best. Loved my Luscombes the best, though.


The 8A was a fine airplane....strong too. Snapped like a Pitts :-))

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Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Yeah, I've always hankered after a clipped t-craft. He's still the best
I've ever seen. Had a few a-65 powered airplanes over the years and
that was one of the best. Loved my Luscombes the best, though.


The 8A was a fine airplane....strong too. Snapped like a Pitts :-))

!!! Not any Pitts I flew! Not unless you enterd at a fairly high speed,
anyway.
They weren't as strong as their reputation would lead you to believe,
though. A number of ADs over the years make me cringe when I think of what
I used to do in my old pre war ragwing model 8 (it wasn't even an 8a,
though it had been converted to 65 HP when I got it) Quick though, and very
satisfying to fly. I'd still loop and barrel roll one even as old as they
are, though.. No snap manuevers, though!




Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Yeah, I've always hankered after a clipped t-craft. He's still the best
I've ever seen. Had a few a-65 powered airplanes over the years and
that was one of the best. Loved my Luscombes the best, though.
The 8A was a fine airplane....strong too. Snapped like a Pitts :-))

!!! Not any Pitts I flew! Not unless you enterd at a fairly high speed,
anyway.
They weren't as strong as their reputation would lead you to believe,
though. A number of ADs over the years make me cringe when I think of what
I used to do in my old pre war ragwing model 8 (it wasn't even an 8a,
though it had been converted to 65 HP when I got it) Quick though, and very
satisfying to fly. I'd still loop and barrel roll one even as old as they
are, though.. No snap manuevers, though!




Bertie



Not REALLY as fast as a Pitts :-)). That's why I attached that little
smilie thingy :-))
You could get a decent snap out of the 8A by breaking the stall in a
little early to accelerate it a bit holding in the back stick, then
throw in full inside rudder AND full aileron as the stall broke.
Actually went around pretty fast for the length of the wings.
Barrel rolls are beautiful in just about any airplane.
Never flew the 8. Just the 8A, and that just a few times. Fellow on the
field had one and wanted some acro dual. Mainly I just wanted to make
sure he had his entry speeds down pat so he didn't stress it.
Nice little airplane.
D

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Dudley Henriques

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:35 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
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You could get a decent snap out of the 8A by breaking the stall ...

I don't recall the Luscomb nor the Taylorcraft being certified for
aerobatics. Did you two fellows have an FAA waiver for aerobatics in
the aircraft in question, or were they registered in the experimental
category?

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:35 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
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You could get a decent snap out of the 8A by breaking the stall ...

I don't recall the Luscomb nor the Taylorcraft being certified for
aerobatics. Did you two fellows have an FAA waiver for aerobatics in
the aircraft in question, or were they registered in the experimental
category?

The Luscombe 8A (I don't believe the 8 ) had a letter of limited
aerobatic capability from the CAA dated 1947 included in the aircraft's
operating manual. This letter listed specific aerobatic maneuvers
approved for the 8A after joint tests between Luscombe and the CAA were
performed.
The limit load factors both ways if I remember right were -2.2 to + 4.5.
The airplane was never certified in the aerobatic category however, and
even the limited aerobatics approved for the airplane were approved
suggesting a high degree of skill if these maneuvers were to be attempted.
That's all I remember about the airplane. Perhaps Bertie, having owned
them has more detailed data for you.

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Dudley Henriques

Larry Dighera wrote in
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:14:35 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
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You could get a decent snap out of the 8A by breaking the stall ...

I don't recall the Luscomb nor the Taylorcraft being certified for
aerobatics. Did you two fellows have an FAA waiver for aerobatics in
the aircraft in question, or were they registered in the experimental
category?



Get a grip Larry. All aircraft built before 49 are allowed to do
aerobatics. Some cub handbooks has directions on how to do loops.

Bertie