Downwind Landings

wrote in news:1190595059.529602.74370
@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

Depends heavily on the aircraft. I know for a fact that a lightly
loaded DC-10 will not be able to
land and stop at McCarran with a 10+knot tailwind. Been onboard when
it was tried and
remember going off the airport boundries at less than 30 AGL You get a
new perspective on
things when you see TV antennas go by above you and chimmneys just
below you!

Lockheed L-10A is virtually impossible to land safely with any
tailwind. It has so much tail
surface that it either slams the tail down or tries to put it on the
nose.

deHaviland Super Chipmunk with a Krier tail gets super squirrelly with
any kind of tailwind. Of
course the tail will come off the ground at about 15 knots forward
speed





These are all completely incorrect.

You can get a DC-10 at max landing weight into a 6,000 foot strip
easily. Even hot and high.

I've routinely operated an A300 into a 6,000 fooot strip with a fifteen
knot tailwind limit (which we often were up against due to the natur of
the strip) fro take off and landing.

I've landed ( a real) kissing cousin f the Lockheed 10, the Twin Beech,
with more than a 10 knot tailwind. It's fine... So would the Lockheed
be.

The Chipmunk, the same. All tailwheel airplanes get more demanding with
a tailwind as the groundspeed sinks to a point at which the surfaces
aren't doing much, but if the airplane was straight up to that point and
there isn't a massive crosswind, then the tailwheel and brakes take care
of the rest.

And I've flown a real Chipmunk...

Bertie

And I've flown a real Chipmunk...

Hope the ASPCA doesn't hear about this...

http://www.aspca.org

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote in news:1190639592.333060.145150
@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

And I've flown a real Chipmunk...

Hope the ASPCA doesn't hear about this...

http://www.aspca.org


Groan!


I think we just heard from one of Anthony's simmer buddies...



Bertie

("Bertie the Bunyip" wrote)
And I've flown a real Chipmunk...

Hope the ASPCA doesn't hear about this...

http://www.aspca.org

I think we just heard from one of Anthony's simmer buddies...


You decide.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm
The "Kiwi" @ The Alexis Park Inn & Suites

BTW - BTDT


Montblack :-)

"Montblack" wrote in
:

("Bertie the Bunyip" wrote)
And I've flown a real Chipmunk...

Hope the ASPCA doesn't hear about this...

http://www.aspca.org

I think we just heard from one of Anthony's simmer buddies...


You decide.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm
The "Kiwi" @ The Alexis Park Inn & Suites

BTW - BTDT


Montblack :-)




OK. Amazing how he knows how all those airplanes fly for a fact, eh?

What kind of asshole spends more on sim toys than an airplane would
cost?

We have one of these guys at work. He has spent, to date, over 50 grand
on a 767 sim in his garage. He once compared it to my building an
airplane defying me to point out any real difference between the
projects.
While the sim is technically daunting, and impressive, BTW, at the end
of the day I will have an airplane and he will have a great big Amiga
surrounded by painted up plywoood.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Montblack" wrote in
:

("Bertie the Bunyip" wrote)
And I've flown a real Chipmunk...
Hope the ASPCA doesn't hear about this...

http://www.aspca.org
I think we just heard from one of Anthony's simmer buddies...

You decide.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm
The "Kiwi" @ The Alexis Park Inn & Suites

BTW - BTDT


Montblack :-)




OK. Amazing how he knows how all those airplanes fly for a fact, eh?

What kind of asshole spends more on sim toys than an airplane would
cost?

We have one of these guys at work. He has spent, to date, over 50 grand
on a 767 sim in his garage. He once compared it to my building an
airplane defying me to point out any real difference between the
projects.

This is too easy. A real airplane can physically transport you to
distant places. A simulator can not.

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote in news:W6XJi.71$2n4.4565
@news1.epix.net:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Montblack" wrote in
:

("Bertie the Bunyip" wrote)
And I've flown a real Chipmunk...
Hope the ASPCA doesn't hear about this...

http://www.aspca.org
I think we just heard from one of Anthony's simmer buddies...

You decide.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm
The "Kiwi" @ The Alexis Park Inn & Suites

BTW - BTDT


Montblack :-)




OK. Amazing how he knows how all those airplanes fly for a fact, eh?

What kind of asshole spends more on sim toys than an airplane would
cost?

We have one of these guys at work. He has spent, to date, over 50
grand
on a 767 sim in his garage. He once compared it to my building an
airplane defying me to point out any real difference between the
projects.

This is too easy. A real airplane can physically transport you to
distant places. A simulator can not.

The idiocy of the statement just left everyone in the crewroom
speechless. Interstingly, when this guy is relatively sharp in the
airplane, but when he makes a big mistake, he's absolutely
flabbergasted. so much so that he loses the plot. He's done it a couple
of times flying with me. Worse still, he has aspirations of becoming a
check airman! Problem is, he probably will and I can't think of anyone
less suitable. If he was fatter and never left the house he could be
Anthony!


Bertie