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Old September 27th 07, 09:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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Default UFO HeliThruster and IFR?

virtuPIC wrote:
Yes, I confess. I don't know much about rotorcrafts. Especially
regarding gyrocopters my knowledge is even more limited.

However, on the net I just stumbled over UFO HeliThruster. Rumors are
that it is rather stable. The manufacturer not only sells kits but
also (FAA-?) certified planes.

If I would buy such a certified HeliThruster, fit it with the
necessary instruments, and give it an N-registration, would I be
allowed to fly it IFR given that I had the necessary pilot
certificates? Would I be allowed to fly it outside US?

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
virtuPIC


With the certified probably not. With the EX-AB sure, if you can get the DAR
to write the limitations correctly.

If you do this let us know. We are always looking for a deal on good used
avionics and salvage is usually a pretty good place to look.


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Old September 27th 07, 09:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default UFO HeliThruster and IFR?

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
virtuPIC wrote:
Yes, I confess. I don't know much about rotorcrafts. Especially
regarding gyrocopters my knowledge is even more limited.

However, on the net I just stumbled over UFO HeliThruster. Rumors are
that it is rather stable. The manufacturer not only sells kits but
also (FAA-?) certified planes.

If I would buy such a certified HeliThruster, fit it with the
necessary instruments, and give it an N-registration, would I be
allowed to fly it IFR given that I had the necessary pilot
certificates? Would I be allowed to fly it outside US?

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
virtuPIC


With the certified probably not. With the EX-AB sure, if you can get
the DAR to write the limitations correctly.

If you do this let us know. We are always looking for a deal on good
used avionics and salvage is usually a pretty good place to look.


I did a little looking and there doesn't seem to be an FAA certified version
and for that matter I couldn't find any of them flying in the US.


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Old September 27th 07, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Stewart
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Default UFO HeliThruster and IFR?

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
virtuPIC wrote:
Yes, I confess. I don't know much about rotorcrafts. Especially
regarding gyrocopters my knowledge is even more limited.

However, on the net I just stumbled over UFO HeliThruster. Rumors are
that it is rather stable. The manufacturer not only sells kits but
also (FAA-?) certified planes.

If I would buy such a certified HeliThruster, fit it with the
necessary instruments, and give it an N-registration, would I be
allowed to fly it IFR given that I had the necessary pilot
certificates? Would I be allowed to fly it outside US?

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
virtuPIC


With the certified probably not. With the EX-AB sure, if you can get the DAR
to write the limitations correctly.

If you do this let us know. We are always looking for a deal on good used
avionics and salvage is usually a pretty good place to look.


LOL. I was wondering how you'd bring
it all together in the end...


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Old September 27th 07, 11:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default UFO HeliThruster and IFR?

Jim Stewart wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
virtuPIC wrote:
Yes, I confess. I don't know much about rotorcrafts. Especially
regarding gyrocopters my knowledge is even more limited.

However, on the net I just stumbled over UFO HeliThruster. Rumors are
that it is rather stable. The manufacturer not only sells kits but
also (FAA-?) certified planes.

If I would buy such a certified HeliThruster, fit it with the
necessary instruments, and give it an N-registration, would I be
allowed to fly it IFR given that I had the necessary pilot
certificates? Would I be allowed to fly it outside US?

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
virtuPIC


With the certified probably not. With the EX-AB sure, if you can get
the DAR to write the limitations correctly.

If you do this let us know. We are always looking for a deal on good
used avionics and salvage is usually a pretty good place to look.


LOL. I was wondering how you'd bring
it all together in the end...


You might also want to ask yourself why
so many of the pictures show pilots wearing
helmets....


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Old September 28th 07, 08:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default UFO HeliThruster and IFR?

You might also want to ask yourself why
so many of the pictures show pilots wearing
helmets....


Yes, indeed. I've been wondering a long time...UFO claims they are
safe. And I can't imagine an accident where a helmet would be of real
use. Is it just my lack of fantasy? Lack of knowledge?

Well, since there seems to be no FAA-certified HeliThruster answers
have become less interesting. However, there might be some gyrocopter
with closed cabin that is easy to handle, stable, able to reach some
100 mph, and IFR-capable. (?)

virtuPIC
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Old September 28th 07, 02:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default UFO HeliThruster and IFR?

virtuPIC wrote:
You might also want to ask yourself why
so many of the pictures show pilots wearing
helmets....


Yes, indeed. I've been wondering a long time...UFO claims they are
safe. And I can't imagine an accident where a helmet would be of real
use. Is it just my lack of fantasy? Lack of knowledge?

Well, since there seems to be no FAA-certified HeliThruster answers
have become less interesting. However, there might be some gyrocopter
with closed cabin that is easy to handle, stable, able to reach some
100 mph, and IFR-capable. (?)

virtuPIC


I don't think you will find any gyrocopter that is suitable for IFR flight.
It just isn't the nature of the beast.


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Old September 28th 07, 10:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Carter[_1_]
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I came across an abandoned autogyro in the Oklahoma panhandle in a farmer's
field alongside his other abandoned trucks and tractors. It was a two-place
tandem fully enclosed fiberglass cockpit with what I believe was a 260 HP
engine. I think it was built by Aerospace Industries if I remember right,
and it carried an N-number registration. I'm pretty sure it would cruise
above 100 mph because it had a pretty small rotor diameter.

I used to regret I didn't try to talk the guy into letting me haul it out of
his field for him ;-)

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas


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Old September 29th 07, 02:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn Simon
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"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
I think it was built by Aerospace Industries if I remember right, and it
carried an N-number registration. I'm pretty sure it would cruise above 100 mph
because it had a pretty small rotor diameter.


Probably this:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../5249/a18a.htm

Vaughn


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Old September 29th 07, 03:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn Simon
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"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
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http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../5249/a18a.htm


Another certified autogyro, the McCulloch J-2:
http://dayton.hq.nasa.gov/IMAGES/SMA...000-001904.jpg

Vaughn


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Old September 30th 07, 12:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.rotorcraft,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Carter[_1_]
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Vaughn,

everyone and their brother must have hit that geocities URL because it
is now "down" due to exceeding its bandwidth.

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas
"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
I think it was built by Aerospace Industries if I remember right, and it
carried an N-number registration. I'm pretty sure it would cruise above
100 mph because it had a pretty small rotor diameter.


Probably this:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver.../5249/a18a.htm

Vaughn




 




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