Duane cole video?

Bill Zaleski wrote in
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:33:20 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

Anyone know of a source for anything involving Duane Cole?

He wrote some books about acro. Let me see if I have any of them.



Got some of his books, thanks. I was actually wondering if anyone knew of
any film of him performing.


Bertie

Bertie

No film but saw him fly once, years ago. Almost as good as Bob Hoover.

Big John

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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:58:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

Bill Zaleski wrote in
:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:33:20 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

Anyone know of a source for anything involving Duane Cole?

He wrote some books about acro. Let me see if I have any of them.



Got some of his books, thanks. I was actually wondering if anyone knew of
any film of him performing.


Bertie

Big John wrote in
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Bertie

No film but saw him fly once, years ago. Almost as good as Bob Hoover.

Saw him fly quite a few times. I always thought he was better!
The thing was, he made it look so easy. The mark of a true craftsman..
I don't think he ever put more than 90 hp in that airplane, either.

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Big John wrote in
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Bertie

No film but saw him fly once, years ago. Almost as good as Bob Hoover.

Saw him fly quite a few times. I always thought he was better!
The thing was, he made it look so easy. The mark of a true craftsman..
I don't think he ever put more than 90 hp in that airplane, either.

Bertie



I would agree with this. Duane had none of the advantages in the clipped
wing T Craft that Hoover had in the 51. His displays in the T Craft were
marvelous demonstrations of energy control.
Bob on the other hand is a master at smoothness of control. I don't
think I've ever seen anyone handle an airplane display wise any smoother
than Hoover.
Duane's routines were special. Where Hoover rode the smooth ride in
placing the 51 where it had to be at any instant in his demonstrations,
Duane Cole managed energy better than anyone I've ever seen in aerobatics.
The best way to describe Duane Cole's flying was that he got every once
of performance out of his airplane that it was possible of giving
him......and then some :-)



--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Big John wrote in
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Bertie

No film but saw him fly once, years ago. Almost as good as Bob
Hoover.

Saw him fly quite a few times. I always thought he was better!
The thing was, he made it look so easy. The mark of a true
craftsman.. I don't think he ever put more than 90 hp in that
airplane, either.

Bertie



I would agree with this. Duane had none of the advantages in the
clipped wing T Craft that Hoover had in the 51. His displays in the T
Craft were marvelous demonstrations of energy control.
Bob on the other hand is a master at smoothness of control. I don't
think I've ever seen anyone handle an airplane display wise any
smoother than Hoover.
Duane's routines were special. Where Hoover rode the smooth ride in
placing the 51 where it had to be at any instant in his
demonstrations, Duane Cole managed energy better than anyone I've ever
seen in aerobatics. The best way to describe Duane Cole's flying was
that he got every once of performance out of his airplane that it was
possible of giving him......and then some :-)


He was unbelievable. The most amazing thing were the square manuevrers.
How he could keep speed up around those corners was nothing less than
astonishing. That airplane must have weighed next to nothing. I read a
review Hoover did of the Skyote, which he loved, BTW. the one he flew
had a C90 on it with no inverted system. The owner of the airplane let
him do a display in it and was amamazed to see him doing square loops
near the ground as well as slow rolls and all sorts of other manuevers.
Whn he asked him how he had managed to keep the engine running Hoover
replied that he just kept it positive enough to keep it running all the
time.
And this in an airplane he had a couple of hours in.

Cole wasn't as big a name to the general public, because you had to be
into aerobatics to know how impossible what he was doing was, wheras
Hoovers were spectacular no matter how you sliced it. I'd loved to see
him fly that Skyote, though..

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Big John wrote in
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Bertie

No film but saw him fly once, years ago. Almost as good as Bob
Hoover.
Saw him fly quite a few times. I always thought he was better!
The thing was, he made it look so easy. The mark of a true
craftsman.. I don't think he ever put more than 90 hp in that
airplane, either.

Bertie


I would agree with this. Duane had none of the advantages in the
clipped wing T Craft that Hoover had in the 51. His displays in the T
Craft were marvelous demonstrations of energy control.
Bob on the other hand is a master at smoothness of control. I don't
think I've ever seen anyone handle an airplane display wise any
smoother than Hoover.
Duane's routines were special. Where Hoover rode the smooth ride in
placing the 51 where it had to be at any instant in his
demonstrations, Duane Cole managed energy better than anyone I've ever
seen in aerobatics. The best way to describe Duane Cole's flying was
that he got every once of performance out of his airplane that it was
possible of giving him......and then some :-)


He was unbelievable. The most amazing thing were the square manuevrers.
How he could keep speed up around those corners was nothing less than
astonishing. That airplane must have weighed next to nothing. I read a
review Hoover did of the Skyote, which he loved, BTW. the one he flew
had a C90 on it with no inverted system. The owner of the airplane let
him do a display in it and was amamazed to see him doing square loops
near the ground as well as slow rolls and all sorts of other manuevers.
Whn he asked him how he had managed to keep the engine running Hoover
replied that he just kept it positive enough to keep it running all the
time.
And this in an airplane he had a couple of hours in.

Cole wasn't as big a name to the general public, because you had to be
into aerobatics to know how impossible what he was doing was, wheras
Hoovers were spectacular no matter how you sliced it. I'd loved to see
him fly that Skyote, though..

Bertie


I flew the Jungmann several times. The Skyote looks a lot like the
Jungmann. Don't know how heavy it is, but it looks like a sweet flying
airplane.
Probably the finest all around and balanced acro airplane I've ever been
around in my time would be the Jungmeister. Bevo of course flew one and
I can't think of anything he couldn't and didn't do with it.
This new breed of mid wings with full span ailerons have to be a blast
to fly. Too bad I missed them. They bring a whole new world of inertia
coupling maneuvers to the table that we never even dreamed of.

I remember the first Lomcevak I did. It was in a Pitts S1S. I set it up
on a 45 up line outside snap. When it broke, I just hung on and had
absolutely no idea where the damn thing would end up. I remember
thinking right after I recovered the airplane that there would be no way
in hell to predict exactly how the airplane would recover.
Later on of course this maneuver became routine.
But the guys today in the mid wings do things with an airplane that I
would have said would have been impossible 20 years ago.
Progress. Ain't it wonderful :-))))
D

--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Big John wrote in
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Bertie

No film but saw him fly once, years ago. Almost as good as Bob Hoover.

Saw him fly quite a few times. I always thought he was better! The
thing was, he made it look so easy. The mark of a true craftsman.. I
don't think he ever put more than 90 hp in that airplane, either.
Bertie


I would agree with this. Duane had none of the advantages in the clipped
wing T Craft that Hoover had in the 51. His displays in the T Craft were
marvelous demonstrations of energy control.
Bob on the other hand is a master at smoothness of control. I don't
think I've ever seen anyone handle an airplane display wise any smoother
than Hoover.
Duane's routines were special. Where Hoover rode the smooth ride in
placing the 51 where it had to be at any instant in his demonstrations,
Duane Cole managed energy better than anyone I've ever seen in aerobatics.
The best way to describe Duane Cole's flying was that he got every once
of performance out of his airplane that it was possible of giving
him......and then some :-)

I never had the pleasure of seeing Duane fly in person, but I was able
to see Bob twice back in the late 70s (or maybe early 80s) at ELM and
IPT. I am continually amazed at how smooth he flew and the precision
with which he flew (dancing the 51, etc.). I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying and
it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.

I wish I had been able to catch one of Duane's routines, but alas...

Matt

I wish I had been able to catch one of Duane's routines, but alas...

My son's most prized autograph (on his "airshow hat") is Duane
Coles...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying and
it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.


Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover handles
an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of control
dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours of
concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about his
flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is using
the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination skills
and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled with a mind
set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every bit as smoothly
and expertly as a Bob Hoover.




--
Dudley Henriques

Matt Whiting wrote in
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Big John wrote in
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Bertie

No film but saw him fly once, years ago. Almost as good as Bob
Hoover.

Saw him fly quite a few times. I always thought he was better! The
thing was, he made it look so easy. The mark of a true craftsman.. I
don't think he ever put more than 90 hp in that airplane, either.
Bertie


I would agree with this. Duane had none of the advantages in the
clipped wing T Craft that Hoover had in the 51. His displays in the T
Craft were marvelous demonstrations of energy control.
Bob on the other hand is a master at smoothness of control. I don't
think I've ever seen anyone handle an airplane display wise any
smoother than Hoover.
Duane's routines were special. Where Hoover rode the smooth ride in
placing the 51 where it had to be at any instant in his
demonstrations, Duane Cole managed energy better than anyone I've
ever seen in aerobatics. The best way to describe Duane Cole's flying
was that he got every once of performance out of his airplane that it
was possible of giving him......and then some :-)

I never had the pleasure of seeing Duane fly in person, but I was able
to see Bob twice back in the late 70s (or maybe early 80s) at ELM and
IPT. I am continually amazed at how smooth he flew and the precision
with which he flew (dancing the 51, etc.). I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close.


That's not what Bob says!

He can come across as a bit of a braggart sometims, but then again he
has a lot to brag about. In actual fact he's actually very
straighforward about his abilities saying that he's got nothing special
going on except a lot of practice and a determination to constantly
improve. Smoothness is easy, really. It;s just five, ten or a hundred
times as many coarse, but smaller, corrections in the same space of
time as you make now!


Bertie