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I wish I had been able to catch one of Duane's routines, but alas...
My son's most prized autograph (on his "airshow hat") is Duane Coles... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like. Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover. Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen, there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours of concentrated practice. Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is using the simple basics correctly. It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover. -- Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Anyhow, just thinking about doing spins is giving me a headache these days! Bertie Me as well. My flying days are behind me. I'm still quite active as a consultant in the airshow safety community and that keeps me busy....that and YARD WORK !!!! :-) Ugh. Yard work. Bertie |
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Matt Whiting wrote in
: Dudley Henriques wrote: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Big John wrote in : Bertie No film but saw him fly once, years ago. Almost as good as Bob Hoover. Saw him fly quite a few times. I always thought he was better! The thing was, he made it look so easy. The mark of a true craftsman.. I don't think he ever put more than 90 hp in that airplane, either. Bertie I would agree with this. Duane had none of the advantages in the clipped wing T Craft that Hoover had in the 51. His displays in the T Craft were marvelous demonstrations of energy control. Bob on the other hand is a master at smoothness of control. I don't think I've ever seen anyone handle an airplane display wise any smoother than Hoover. Duane's routines were special. Where Hoover rode the smooth ride in placing the 51 where it had to be at any instant in his demonstrations, Duane Cole managed energy better than anyone I've ever seen in aerobatics. The best way to describe Duane Cole's flying was that he got every once of performance out of his airplane that it was possible of giving him......and then some :-) I never had the pleasure of seeing Duane fly in person, but I was able to see Bob twice back in the late 70s (or maybe early 80s) at ELM and IPT. I am continually amazed at how smooth he flew and the precision with which he flew (dancing the 51, etc.). I've constantly tried to increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it simply isn't possible to even get close. That's not what Bob says! He can come across as a bit of a braggart sometims, but then again he has a lot to brag about. In actual fact he's actually very straighforward about his abilities saying that he's got nothing special going on except a lot of practice and a determination to constantly improve. Smoothness is easy, really. It;s just five, ten or a hundred times as many coarse, but smaller, corrections in the same space of time as you make now! Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Anyhow, just thinking about doing spins is giving me a headache these days! Bertie Me as well. My flying days are behind me. I'm still quite active as a consultant in the airshow safety community and that keeps me busy....that and YARD WORK !!!! :-) Ugh. Yard work. Bertie Horrible stuff, yard work! And there are other things too that make retirement a royal bitch. Take that damn squirrel of mine...yes I have a pet squirrel :-)) Little bugger started coming up onto the back deck and me like an idiot decided that he was so cute I should start training him to eat out of my hand. Out comes my wife and promptly tells me, "Hon, PLEASE don't feed the squirrels. They'll end up coming around and eating all my flowers". "Hell" says me, why would they eat your flowers when I'm giving them all this good stuff?" "PLEASE", she says; don't do it! They'll eat the flowers". Well, this morning guess what happened? God, I wish I was flying again!!!! :-))) -- Dudley Henriques |
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He can come across as a bit of a braggart sometims, but then again he
has a lot to brag about. Bob Hoover has never (to my knowledge) come across as even a LITTLE bit of a braggart. In fact, he's so far toward the humble direction, it's almost embarrassing at times. You must be thinking of Yeager... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1191089877.523152.97570
@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: He can come across as a bit of a braggart sometims, but then again he has a lot to brag about. Bob Hoover has never (to my knowledge) come across as even a LITTLE bit of a braggart. In fact, he's so far toward the humble direction, it's almost embarrassing at times. Depends. When he's just telling his war stories, he can sound like he;s bragging, but of course, he's nothe's just relating the facts. You must be thinking of Yeager... No, I wasn't. But you're right, he's unreal. Mind you , he's got a lot to brag about. I've never seen him fly, though. Bertie |
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
: Matt Whiting wrote: I've constantly tried to increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like. Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover. Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen, there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours of concentrated practice. Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is using the simple basics correctly. Yes, I've heard him say this too. And it's true. It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover. 'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts getting notions Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in : Matt Whiting wrote: I've constantly tried to increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like. Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover. Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen, there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours of concentrated practice. Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is using the simple basics correctly. Yes, I've heard him say this too. And it's true. It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover. 'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts getting notions Bertie I'll tell you the truth. Through the years, I've seen Bob in all kinds of moods when dealing with people. I'm not at all sure he would know how to react to Anthony :-)) -- Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote in : Matt Whiting wrote: I've constantly tried to increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like. Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover. Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen, there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours of concentrated practice. Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is using the simple basics correctly. Yes, I've heard him say this too. And it's true. It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover. 'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts getting notions Bertie I'll tell you the truth. Through the years, I've seen Bob in all kinds of moods when dealing with people. I'm not at all sure he would know how to react to Anthony :-)) Not much chance ofthat, unless he atually went to Anhony's house. Bertie |
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