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  #21  
Old September 29th 07, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:
He can come across as a bit of a braggart sometims, but then again he
has a lot to brag about.


Bob Hoover has never (to my knowledge) come across as even a LITTLE
bit of a braggart. In fact, he's so far toward the humble direction,
it's almost embarrassing at times.

You must be thinking of Yeager...

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Bob's professional persona when dealing with people on site is practiced
and extremely gentle and non-threatening. He is helpful and very kind to
people when and if warranted.
I can tell you also that under certain conditions privately, Bob does
NOT like to be fooled with and is an extremely capable advasary when the
mood strikes him that he's had enough.
Basically, he's perfectly normal like the rest of us. He purrs by force
of habit, but can bite deeply if necessary.

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Old September 29th 07, 08:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying
and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.
Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover
handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of
control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of
hours of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about
his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is
using the simple basics correctly.

Yes, I've heard him say this too. And it's true.


It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every
bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.




'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts
getting notions

Bertie

I'll tell you the truth. Through the years, I've seen Bob in all kinds
of moods when dealing with people. I'm not at all sure he would know
how to react to Anthony :-))



Not much chance ofthat, unless he atually went to Anhony's house.

Bertie


You might have a valid point here :-))

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Old September 29th 07, 09:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:34:06 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:


'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts getting
notions


It's really easy to pour a glass of water while rolling the sim.
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Old September 29th 07, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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B A R R Y wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:34:06 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts getting
notions


It's really easy to pour a glass of water while rolling the sim.


Question to ponder for the day :-)) Aerobatic Perspective!!!!

When you roll an airplane using your desktop flight simulator you are
not actually rolling an airplane but rolling an image of that airplane
on a monitor in front of you. Now this poses an interesting problem
concerning perspective.
Let's do a 1/2 roll to inverted on your simulator and attempt to perform
an inverted left turn.
Try this while viewing the horizon from INSIDE the cockpit and note if
what you are seeing is what you would be seeing in a real airplane.
Now switch to an outside view of the airplane inverted looking at it
right up the tail and begin a left inverted turn.
Note any differences between the two views and explain what's happening.
This is an interesting experiment in perspective.


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Old September 29th 07, 10:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying
and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.



Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover handles
an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of control
dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours of
concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about his
flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is using
the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination skills
and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled with a mind
set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every bit as smoothly
and expertly as a Bob Hoover.


I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've seen
many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that seemed the
equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems like more would have.

I fly quite smoothly for normal flight operations, but I don't think I
have time to practice enough to approach Hoover's skill and wonder if he
had some natural ability that would make it impossible to gain his level
of skill despite the practice.

I believe that practice is a huge part of any endeavor, but my skills
are math and science and others have art, music, etc. I think I could
paint 8 hours a day every day and never be Picasso.


Matt
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Old September 29th 07, 10:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying
and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.

Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover
handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of
control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours
of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about
his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is
using the simple basics correctly.



Yes, I've heard him say this too. And it's true.

It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every
bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.




'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts
getting notions
Bertie


I'll tell you the truth. Through the years, I've seen Bob in all kinds
of moods when dealing with people. I'm not at all sure he would know how
to react to Anthony :-))



I think he'd just smile condescendingly and walk away. :-)

Matt
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Old September 29th 07, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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B A R R Y wrote in
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:34:06 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:


'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts getting
notions


It's really easy to pour a glass of water while rolling the sim.


Well, in anthony's case, a simulated glass of water, maybe.

bertie
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Old September 29th 07, 10:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying
and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.

Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover
handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of
control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of
hours of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about
his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is
using the simple basics correctly.


Yes, I've heard him say this too. And it's true.

It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every
bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.




'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts
getting notions
Bertie


I'll tell you the truth. Through the years, I've seen Bob in all kinds
of moods when dealing with people. I'm not at all sure he would know
how to react to Anthony :-))



I think he'd just smile condescendingly and walk away. :-)

Matt


Well....that is one option I've seen him use :-)

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Old September 29th 07, 10:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying
and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.



Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover
handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of
control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours
of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about
his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is
using the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every
bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.


I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've
seen many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that
seemed the equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems like
more would have.


There have been many over the years. He's that little bit better than
mmost, but there are others out there as good. They don't do the sort of
fying he does and you reall need to be into aerobatics to appreciate
what they're doing, but I still maintain that Duane Cole was at least as
good.
Hoover's also been lucky, as I'm sure he would tell you himself. He's
rolled an awful lot of airplanes into litle balls over the years. that's
al part of his experience, of course.


Bertie

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Old September 29th 07, 10:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
B A R R Y wrote in
:

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:34:06 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts getting
notions

It's really easy to pour a glass of water while rolling the sim.


Well, in anthony's case, a simulated glass of water, maybe.

bertie


Have you ever considered the possibility that Anthony himself could be
simulated?
:-))

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