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Old September 29th 07, 10:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying
and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.



Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover handles
an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of control
dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours of
concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about his
flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is using
the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination skills
and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled with a mind
set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every bit as smoothly
and expertly as a Bob Hoover.


I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've seen
many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that seemed the
equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems like more would have.

I fly quite smoothly for normal flight operations, but I don't think I
have time to practice enough to approach Hoover's skill and wonder if he
had some natural ability that would make it impossible to gain his level
of skill despite the practice.

I believe that practice is a huge part of any endeavor, but my skills
are math and science and others have art, music, etc. I think I could
paint 8 hours a day every day and never be Picasso.


Matt
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Old September 29th 07, 10:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying
and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.



Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover
handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of
control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours
of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about
his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is
using the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every
bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.


I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've
seen many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that
seemed the equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems like
more would have.


There have been many over the years. He's that little bit better than
mmost, but there are others out there as good. They don't do the sort of
fying he does and you reall need to be into aerobatics to appreciate
what they're doing, but I still maintain that Duane Cole was at least as
good.
Hoover's also been lucky, as I'm sure he would tell you himself. He's
rolled an awful lot of airplanes into litle balls over the years. that's
al part of his experience, of course.


Bertie

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Old September 29th 07, 10:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun trying
and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.

Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever seen,
there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way Hoover
handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid knowledge of
control dynamics and an ability to predict based on hundreds of hours
of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare about
his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils down to is
using the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane every
bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.

I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've
seen many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that
seemed the equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems like
more would have.


There have been many over the years. He's that little bit better than
mmost, but there are others out there as good. They don't do the sort of
fying he does and you reall need to be into aerobatics to appreciate
what they're doing, but I still maintain that Duane Cole was at least as
good.
Hoover's also been lucky, as I'm sure he would tell you himself. He's
rolled an awful lot of airplanes into litle balls over the years. that's
al part of his experience, of course.


Bertie


I actually arranged to loan him "Miss America" at Transpo in 72 after he
put his own 51 down on one foot when his gear malfunctioned on him
during a practice flight. He hardly dinged the prop when he landed it.
Damn good job!
Howie only had one restriction that we put on Bob. No one wheel
landings! No matter how good you are, putting a 51 down on one strut and
then the other might very well require a Rockwell expense account to get
the oleos straightened out again if the wind is just right. :-))
Anyway, Hoover's one hell of a pilot, but I agree with you that Duane
was extremely smooth as well.......as are many other professionals
including one my wife knows quite well :-))
D



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Old September 29th 07, 11:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun
trying and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.

Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever
seen, there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way
Hoover handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid
knowledge of control dynamics and an ability to predict based on
hundreds of hours of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare
about his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils
down to is using the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane
every bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.
I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've
seen many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that
seemed the equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems like
more would have.


There have been many over the years. He's that little bit better than
mmost, but there are others out there as good. They don't do the sort
of fying he does and you reall need to be into aerobatics to
appreciate what they're doing, but I still maintain that Duane Cole
was at least as good.
Hoover's also been lucky, as I'm sure he would tell you himself. He's
rolled an awful lot of airplanes into litle balls over the years.
that's al part of his experience, of course.


Bertie


I actually arranged to loan him "Miss America" at Transpo in 72 after
he put his own 51 down on one foot when his gear malfunctioned on him
during a practice flight. He hardly dinged the prop when he landed it.
Damn good job!
Howie only had one restriction that we put on Bob. No one wheel
landings! No matter how good you are, putting a 51 down on one strut
and then the other might very well require a Rockwell expense account
to get the oleos straightened out again if the wind is just right.
:-)) Anyway, Hoover's one hell of a pilot, but I agree with you that
Duane was extremely smooth as well.......as are many other
professionals including one my wife knows quite well :-))


There's a lot of good guys out there, but please don't imagine I'm
dispariging him in any way! Wish I could do half what he's done.

Bertie




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Old September 29th 07, 11:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun
trying and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.
Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever
seen, there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way
Hoover handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid
knowledge of control dynamics and an ability to predict based on
hundreds of hours of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare
about his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils
down to is using the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane
every bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.
I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've
seen many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that
seemed the equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems like
more would have.
There have been many over the years. He's that little bit better than
mmost, but there are others out there as good. They don't do the sort
of fying he does and you reall need to be into aerobatics to
appreciate what they're doing, but I still maintain that Duane Cole
was at least as good.
Hoover's also been lucky, as I'm sure he would tell you himself. He's
rolled an awful lot of airplanes into litle balls over the years.
that's al part of his experience, of course.


Bertie

I actually arranged to loan him "Miss America" at Transpo in 72 after
he put his own 51 down on one foot when his gear malfunctioned on him
during a practice flight. He hardly dinged the prop when he landed it.
Damn good job!
Howie only had one restriction that we put on Bob. No one wheel
landings! No matter how good you are, putting a 51 down on one strut
and then the other might very well require a Rockwell expense account
to get the oleos straightened out again if the wind is just right.
:-)) Anyway, Hoover's one hell of a pilot, but I agree with you that
Duane was extremely smooth as well.......as are many other
professionals including one my wife knows quite well :-))


There's a lot of good guys out there, but please don't imagine I'm
dispariging him in any way! Wish I could do half what he's done.

Bertie




The thought never even entered my head Bertie. I think I know you better
than that. Your posting is accurate and honest......although I guess we
have to consider that I have gotten myself into some God awful Usenet
messes following that path :-)))

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Old September 30th 07, 01:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote in news:nc-
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well

it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun
trying and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.
Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever
seen, there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way
Hoover handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid
knowledge of control dynamics and an ability to predict based on
hundreds of hours of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare
about his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils
down to is using the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane
every bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.
I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've
seen many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that
seemed the equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems

like
more would have.
There have been many over the years. He's that little bit better

than
mmost, but there are others out there as good. They don't do the

sort
of fying he does and you reall need to be into aerobatics to
appreciate what they're doing, but I still maintain that Duane Cole
was at least as good.
Hoover's also been lucky, as I'm sure he would tell you himself.

He's
rolled an awful lot of airplanes into litle balls over the years.
that's al part of his experience, of course.


Bertie

I actually arranged to loan him "Miss America" at Transpo in 72

after
he put his own 51 down on one foot when his gear malfunctioned on

him
during a practice flight. He hardly dinged the prop when he landed

it.
Damn good job!
Howie only had one restriction that we put on Bob. No one wheel
landings! No matter how good you are, putting a 51 down on one strut
and then the other might very well require a Rockwell expense

account
to get the oleos straightened out again if the wind is just right.
:-)) Anyway, Hoover's one hell of a pilot, but I agree with you that
Duane was extremely smooth as well.......as are many other
professionals including one my wife knows quite well :-))


There's a lot of good guys out there, but please don't imagine I'm
dispariging him in any way! Wish I could do half what he's done.

Bertie




The thought never even entered my head Bertie. I think I know you

better
than that. Your posting is accurate and honest......although I guess

we
have to consider that I have gotten myself into some God awful Usenet
messes following that path :-)))



It's just easy to misinterpret that sort of thig, eh?



  #7  
Old September 30th 07, 01:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:nc-
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
I've constantly tried to
increase my smoothness to better emulate Bob, knowing full well

it
simply isn't possible to even get close. However, it is fun
trying and it was fun seeing what near perfection looked like.
Actually it is possible to approach the smoothness of Bob Hoover.
Although Bob is one of the finest pure stick drivers I've ever
seen, there is nothing magical or even difficult about the way
Hoover handles an airplane. What Bob does is based on a solid
knowledge of control dynamics and an ability to predict based on
hundreds of hours of concentrated practice.
Bob would be the first to tell you that after all the fan fare
about his flying ability has been considered, what it all boils
down to is using the simple basics correctly.
It's as simple as that. ANY pilot possessing normal coordination
skills and the desire to learn how to do things correctly coupled
with a mind set that is geared to practice can fly an airplane
every bit as smoothly and expertly as a Bob Hoover.
I don't dispute that, but I also think there is some natural
coordination and sensory skills that must be possessed also. I've
seen many different aerobatic pilots fly and have seen none that
seemed the equal of Bob. If anyone truly could do it, it seems

like
more would have.
There have been many over the years. He's that little bit better

than
mmost, but there are others out there as good. They don't do the

sort
of fying he does and you reall need to be into aerobatics to
appreciate what they're doing, but I still maintain that Duane Cole
was at least as good.
Hoover's also been lucky, as I'm sure he would tell you himself.

He's
rolled an awful lot of airplanes into litle balls over the years.
that's al part of his experience, of course.


Bertie

I actually arranged to loan him "Miss America" at Transpo in 72

after
he put his own 51 down on one foot when his gear malfunctioned on

him
during a practice flight. He hardly dinged the prop when he landed

it.
Damn good job!
Howie only had one restriction that we put on Bob. No one wheel
landings! No matter how good you are, putting a 51 down on one strut
and then the other might very well require a Rockwell expense

account
to get the oleos straightened out again if the wind is just right.
:-)) Anyway, Hoover's one hell of a pilot, but I agree with you that
Duane was extremely smooth as well.......as are many other
professionals including one my wife knows quite well :-))
There's a lot of good guys out there, but please don't imagine I'm
dispariging him in any way! Wish I could do half what he's done.

Bertie

The thought never even entered my head Bertie. I think I know you

better
than that. Your posting is accurate and honest......although I guess

we
have to consider that I have gotten myself into some God awful Usenet
messes following that path :-)))



It's just easy to misinterpret that sort of thig, eh?



Not between two old foggies like us. We know better :-))

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Dudley Henriques
 




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