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Old September 30th 07, 01:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Big John wrote:


[snip]

I love usenet! Great stories, guys.

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Old September 30th 07, 02:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Big John wrote:

I ended up stopping watching Bob fly as he was always so close to the
ragged edge. I just didn't want to watch him crash and die so I
stopped looking and he didn't )


And for that we are all thankful!! :-)

Seriously, my primary flight instructor was like this, albeit in single
engine Cessnas rather than jets. He was in his 50s when I learned from
him and is now in his 80s and still flying pretty well. He let me get
so close to the edge that I thought I was going to kill us both and then
he'd calmly take the plane and restore order.

Unlike most other instructors I flew with (probably 8-10 since 1978), he
was always completely at ease and relaxed. He just knew where the edge
was and he knew is own capabilities and he would let you go right to the
edge and then he'd calmly bring you back.

I'm not claiming he is a Bob Hoover, but he certainly knew how to fly a
C-1xx very well.

Matt
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Old October 1st 07, 01:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith wrote:
In article ,
Dudley Henriques wrote:

I totally agree with your evaluation of Bob's technique. He was indeed
one of those rare guys who could play on the ragged edge without
crossing the line. John Boyd was another stick with this ability. With
Boyd it was the ability to play the energy game to a fine edge.


Dudley,
I for one would be very interested in what you can tell us about John
Boyd. After reading his biography, all the other information about him
relates to his theory of warfare.

Thanks.


John was the father of the Energy Maneuverability concept among many
other things. His early work on EM along with E.T. Christi and Ed
Rutowski became the basis for much of what we now use in design concept,
test flying, and especially comparative performance formats where
dissimilar fighter planes (and others as well) can be compared based on
their specific excess power (Ps).
There is much controversy about John Boyd, mostly from men of lesser
standing if I might add. He was flamboyant, took crap from no one, and
spoke his mind at all times, several of which as I recall were somewhat
detrimental to his career in the Air Force.
I knew him as a friend and liked him a great deal.
John developed a reputation by challenging every fighter pilot he met at
the local O Club to a head to head. His standing challenge was that he
could convert on anyone and be in their kill zone within 40 seconds.
John was referred to throughout the Air Force as "40 second Boyd".
The real rub with some ex Air Force pilots who to this day say they
didn't like John is that to my knowledge anyway, no one ever beat him
when the wheels hit the wells. I think he converted on every pilot he
ever met on that bet of his. There may be a case where John lost to
another pilot in these head to head's but I've not seen it proven in all
the years since it happened.
The bottom line on John Boyd was that he probably never won a
personality contest, but he was one hell of a fighter pilot and probably
one of the finest tactical minds of our lifetime.


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Old October 1st 07, 05:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
B A R R Y wrote in
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:34:06 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts
getting notions
It's really easy to pour a glass of water while rolling the sim.

Well, in anthony's case, a simulated glass of water, maybe.

bertie

Have you ever considered the possibility that Anthony himself could be
simulated?
:-))


Hmm, an idiot-bot. Why haven't we been able to see this before?


We have. His name was Tarver, remember?

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Old October 1st 07, 05:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Rich Ahrens wrote in news:47007776$0$97900
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
B A R R Y wrote in
:

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:34:06 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

'Course they'd have to actually BE a pilot. Lest Anthony starts
getting notions
It's really easy to pour a glass of water while rolling the sim.

Well, in anthony's case, a simulated glass of water, maybe.

bertie
Have you ever considered the possibility that Anthony himself could be
simulated?
:-))


Hmm, an idiot-bot. Why haven't we been able to see this before?


We have. His name was Tarver, remember?


Ah yes. Although even thinking about him is giving me a headache.

Bertie


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Old October 1st 07, 11:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"john smith" wrote:

In Hoover's biography, I believe he states that his favorite aircraft to
fly was the F-86.


My ol' buddy Jack Scheider, whom I haven't seen in years, used to say how much
he loved flying the F-86, calling it "a Cadillac."

How about it, you emeritus fighter jocks, give us some stories about flying
the Saberjet!

Pleeeease?

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Old October 2nd 07, 05:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dan

I flew the Saberliner. Does that count?

Big John
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:42:59 -0500, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"john smith" wrote:

In Hoover's biography, I believe he states that his favorite aircraft to
fly was the F-86.


My ol' buddy Jack Scheider, whom I haven't seen in years, used to say how much
he loved flying the F-86, calling it "a Cadillac."

How about it, you emeritus fighter jocks, give us some stories about flying
the Saberjet!

Pleeeease?


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Old October 11th 07, 12:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley Henriques wrote:

About feeding the squirrel; It took a great deal of patience and
so far only a few have responded. What I do is take a small piece
of bread and speak slowly and in a very gentle voice to the
squirrel; sort of like you would do with a cat. The objective is
to be totally non threatening so I hold out the bread in my
fingers and I don't move either my hand or my body at all. I let
the animal make it's own advance toward my hand as I speak to it
gently. I find that the squirrel will respond VERY tentatively and
cautiously. It advances slowly and sometimes retreats back a bit
then comes in closer. Finally, it will come up to my extended hand
and VERY gently...and I mean GENTLY, take the bread from my
fingers. There is absolutely no tendency to bite and absolutely no
aggression is present. He used to take the bread and back up to
the porch rail and eat it, but I'm astounded that as he has gained
confidence in my intention to do him no harm, he has taken the
bread and sat right there next to me eating it. I understand that
wild animals are unpredictable and can suddenly turn on you, but
for some reason I honestly believe that they can sense kindness
and non aggression and they respond in kind.


Getting them to sense food is a major accomplishment.

I think the reputation comes from (among how many other possible
reasons) the fact that wild animals have to react very quickly in
their normal environment where they have little time to consider
responses. Also, they are used to dealing with their own, not us
relatively clumsy human beings.


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Old October 11th 07, 01:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,free.usenet
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John Doe wrote in news:09oPi.2200$lE2.536
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net:

Dudley Henriques wrote:

About feeding the squirrel; It took a great deal of patience and
so far only a few have responded. What I do is take a small piece
of bread and speak slowly and in a very gentle voice to the
squirrel; sort of like you would do with a cat. The objective is
to be totally non threatening so I hold out the bread in my
fingers and I don't move either my hand or my body at all. I let
the animal make it's own advance toward my hand as I speak to it
gently. I find that the squirrel will respond VERY tentatively and
cautiously. It advances slowly and sometimes retreats back a bit
then comes in closer. Finally, it will come up to my extended hand
and VERY gently...and I mean GENTLY, take the bread from my
fingers. There is absolutely no tendency to bite and absolutely no
aggression is present. He used to take the bread and back up to
the porch rail and eat it, but I'm astounded that as he has gained
confidence in my intention to do him no harm, he has taken the
bread and sat right there next to me eating it. I understand that
wild animals are unpredictable and can suddenly turn on you, but
for some reason I honestly believe that they can sense kindness
and non aggression and they respond in kind.


Getting them to sense food is a major accomplishment.

I think the reputation comes from (among how many other possible
reasons) the fact that wild animals have to react very quickly in
their normal environment where they have little time to consider
responses. Also, they are used to dealing with their own, not us
relatively clumsy human beings.



Oh the irony.



Bertie
 




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