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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:29:22 -0500, "Paul Riley"
wrote: "Dudley Henriques" wrote in message news ![]() Each pilot in other words, is being encouraged and REMINDED, to be in a constant state of self evaluation as to the ability to perform at any given time and place. It ain't much......but it helps! -- Dudley Henriques Dudley, You are exactly right. I flew a zero-zero GCA, at night, in a UHIB, at the An Khe airfield in late 1965. No other place to go. We were on mortar patrol, had just been relieved on station by our replacement aircraft. Ground fog had moved in, even the replacement aircraft was not aware of it. No one expected it. I had an instrument rating, my copilot did not. Our other option was to go crash in the jungle someplace (with the bad guys, but where it was clear). Since we did not have enough fuel to divert to a safe landing area--more than 45 minutes away (hey, this was Nam) we decided it was our only option. Obviously, we made it, believe it or not, no damage to aircraft or crew. The GCA Controller got three quarts of Johnny Walker Red the next morning. G Goes to show, you CAN handle a bad situation, IF you remember your training. Regards, Paul PS Sorry about the misplaced thanks!! Paul Welcome to the crowd. There are only a few of us. I too made ONE zero zero at Hamilton AFB in F-94C. Finished mission and went RTB and as we approached the field watched the San Francisco Bay fog roll in before we could land. No fuel for alternate so continued with a GCA. Hit GCA minimums and no runway. Told GCA to keep talking and rotated to a landing attitude and continued decent. Next thing I knew was rolling down runway. Like you, when you gotta do you gotta do. Big John |
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Hi Big John,
Nice thing about doing it in a helicopter, you can slow down, WAY down, when you get near the ground. Rate of descent about 1 foot per minute, pretty much a landing from a hover on instruments, just ease it down until you find a runway light for reference or can see the pavement through the chin bubble. :-))))))) I would not like to try it in a fighter jet, they do not hover well. Or do they??? :-))))) Anyway, that was the one and only time, and I am happy it never happened again. :-)))) Regards, Paul "Big John" wrote in message ... On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:29:22 -0500, "Paul Riley" wrote: "Dudley Henriques" wrote in message news ![]() Each pilot in other words, is being encouraged and REMINDED, to be in a constant state of self evaluation as to the ability to perform at any given time and place. It ain't much......but it helps! -- Dudley Henriques Dudley, You are exactly right. I flew a zero-zero GCA, at night, in a UHIB, at the An Khe airfield in late 1965. No other place to go. We were on mortar patrol, had just been relieved on station by our replacement aircraft. Ground fog had moved in, even the replacement aircraft was not aware of it. No one expected it. I had an instrument rating, my copilot did not. Our other option was to go crash in the jungle someplace (with the bad guys, but where it was clear). Since we did not have enough fuel to divert to a safe landing area--more than 45 minutes away (hey, this was Nam) we decided it was our only option. Obviously, we made it, believe it or not, no damage to aircraft or crew. The GCA Controller got three quarts of Johnny Walker Red the next morning. G Goes to show, you CAN handle a bad situation, IF you remember your training. Regards, Paul PS Sorry about the misplaced thanks!! Paul Welcome to the crowd. There are only a few of us. I too made ONE zero zero at Hamilton AFB in F-94C. Finished mission and went RTB and as we approached the field watched the San Francisco Bay fog roll in before we could land. No fuel for alternate so continued with a GCA. Hit GCA minimums and no runway. Told GCA to keep talking and rotated to a landing attitude and continued decent. Next thing I knew was rolling down runway. Like you, when you gotta do you gotta do. Big John |
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