Fuel selector question

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:21:50 -0500, "Maxwell"
wrote:


The POH will answer that.


Wise ass.


What's up with that?

Getting a new pilot into the habit of going to the POH _first_, is a
bad thing? G

On Oct 5, 11:53 am, B A R R Y wrote:
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:21:50 -0500, "Maxwell"
wrote:



The POH will answer that.

Wise ass.

What's up with that?

Getting a new pilot into the habit of going to the POH _first_, is a
bad thing? G

The POH for the 1958 Luscombe I used to fly had a 10-page POH. I
imagine the older cessna models were the same.

Besides, how many times have you really switched tanks in a 172? The
last time I tried to turn the fuel switch in a 172 to demonstrate to a
student, it felt like I might break something. It probably has never
been touched in years.

The OP has a damn good question, so telling him to "go read the POH'
is very patronizing and reflects poorly on all pilots' attitudes
towards new students. And you wonder why the student population is
declining in aviation. I once flew with a smart-ass CFI like this. I
flew with him only once, and unfortunately that experience kept me
from coming back for a long time. Be careful about how you treat new
comers to aviation.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:23:10 -0700, Andrew Sarangan
wrote:

The OP has a damn good question, so telling him to "go read the POH'
is very patronizing and reflects poorly on all pilots' attitudes
towards new students.

OK, so HIS "read the POH" response was a tad harsh, but the overall
message remains a good one.

Be careful about how you treat new
comers to aviation.

You can point someone toward a basic reference in a manner that's
neither condescending or demeaning. G

So perhaps a more pleasant tone would be better?

On Oct 6, 7:30 am, B A R R Y wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:23:10 -0700, Andrew Sarangan

wrote:

The OP has a damn good question, so telling him to "go read the POH'
is very patronizing and reflects poorly on all pilots' attitudes
towards new students.

OK, so HIS "read the POH" response was a tad harsh, but the overall
message remains a good one.

Be careful about how you treat new
comers to aviation.

You can point someone toward a basic reference in a manner that's
neither condescending or demeaning. G

So perhaps a more pleasant tone would be better?

Yes. I can relate to many such instances where a more inviting
attitude from the pilot would have had a different outcome. Long time
ago, even before I was a student pilot, I found out that my college
house mate was a pilot. I had all kinds of questions I wanted to ask
him about flying. But he was behaving like Tom Cruise in Top Gun, and
gave me the impression that I might not be cool enough to become a
pilot. He was never willing to answer any questions except tell me
that "it takes a lot of training and experience". Sort of like
telling someone to "go read the books". I have had other similar
encounters. Actually, I don't think I met a single friendly and
inviting pilot until I became a pilot myself. It is pretty sad.
Despite all that I still managed to become a pilot and CFI. I am just
very sensitive about how pilots treat other people expressing interest
in aviation.

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 07:51:56 -0700, Andrew Sarangan
wrote:


Despite all that I still managed to become a pilot and CFI. I am just
very sensitive about how pilots treat other people expressing interest
in aviation.


Points well taken! G

I really do try to do the same. I give away my expired charts,
magazines, and printed training materials to non-pilots. I even
offered to mail expired charts to France, when you-know-who first
appeared. One of the local simmers who I've passed lots of charts
to, and explained how to read them, has even enrolled in an actual PP
ground school and gotten up a few times. I'm also one who has
advocated offering "fence hangers" impromptu rides.

I'll try to be more mindful of your experiences when suggesting
students and interested parties look things up themselves.

On Oct 6, 1:30 pm, B A R R Y wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:23:10 -0700, Andrew Sarangan

wrote:

The OP has a damn good question, so telling him to "go read the POH'
is very patronizing and reflects poorly on all pilots' attitudes
towards new students.

OK, so HIS "read the POH" response was a tad harsh, but the overall
message remains a good one.

Be careful about how you treat new
comers to aviation.

You can point someone toward a basic reference in a manner that's
neither condescending or demeaning. G

So perhaps a more pleasant tone would be better?

Yes, you are right that my answer was not in a very pleasant tone.

Normally I'm the kind of person that tell people just read the book.
I'm not a CFI but I give training in other fields, one of the first
things I do is were to find and how to use manuals.

I was out of line here.

-Kees

wrote in news:1191824413.286637.187960
@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

On Oct 6, 1:30 pm, B A R R Y wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:23:10 -0700, Andrew Sarangan

wrote:

The OP has a damn good question, so telling him to "go read the POH'
is very patronizing and reflects poorly on all pilots' attitudes
towards new students.

OK, so HIS "read the POH" response was a tad harsh, but the overall
message remains a good one.

Be careful about how you treat new
comers to aviation.

You can point someone toward a basic reference in a manner that's
neither condescending or demeaning. G

So perhaps a more pleasant tone would be better?

Yes, you are right that my answer was not in a very pleasant tone.

Normally I'm the kind of person that tell people just read the book.
I'm not a CFI but I give training in other fields, one of the first
things I do is were to find and how to use manuals.

I was out of line here.



'm sorry, but this sort of thig just will not do.

Please call him a name and threaten to killfile him right now or shall
have to take drastic measures.


Bertie

On Oct 8, 8:49 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote in news:1191824413.286637.187960
@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:





On Oct 6, 1:30 pm, B A R R Y wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:23:10 -0700, Andrew Sarangan

wrote:

The OP has a damn good question, so telling him to "go read the POH'
is very patronizing and reflects poorly on all pilots' attitudes
towards new students.

OK, so HIS "read the POH" response was a tad harsh, but the overall
message remains a good one.

Be careful about how you treat new
comers to aviation.

You can point someone toward a basic reference in a manner that's
neither condescending or demeaning. G

So perhaps a more pleasant tone would be better?

Yes, you are right that my answer was not in a very pleasant tone.

Normally I'm the kind of person that tell people just read the book.
I'm not a CFI but I give training in other fields, one of the first
things I do is were to find and how to use manuals.

I was out of line here.

'm sorry, but this sort of thig just will not do.

Please call him a name and threaten to killfile him right now or shall
have to take drastic measures.

Bertie- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good morning Bertie,

Do I have to take drastic measures or others against me or both?

-Kees

wrote in news:1191828153.253491.212830@
22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

On Oct 8, 8:49 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote in news:1191824413.286637.187960
@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:





On Oct 6, 1:30 pm, B A R R Y
wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:23:10 -0700, Andrew Sarangan

wrote:

The OP has a damn good question, so telling him to "go read the
POH'
is very patronizing and reflects poorly on all pilots' attitudes
towards new students.

OK, so HIS "read the POH" response was a tad harsh, but the
overall
message remains a good one.

Be careful about how you treat new
comers to aviation.

You can point someone toward a basic reference in a manner that's
neither condescending or demeaning. G

So perhaps a more pleasant tone would be better?

Yes, you are right that my answer was not in a very pleasant tone.

Normally I'm the kind of person that tell people just read the
book.
I'm not a CFI but I give training in other fields, one of the first
things I do is were to find and how to use manuals.

I was out of line here.

'm sorry, but this sort of thig just will not do.

Please call him a name and threaten to killfile him right now or
shall
have to take drastic measures.

Bertie- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good morning Bertie,

Do I have to take drastic measures or others against me or both?


As you feel neccesary and appropriate, but please try snd keep the adult
behavior to a minimum, eh?

Bertie