Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bob Noel wrote:
In article , "Morgans"
wrote:

Surrender plays into the troll's hands and thus is one of the worst
ways to respond to a troll.
I'm not sure I understand the point you are trying to make.

What constitutes surrender, in your opinion?

Are you saying ignoring a troll is to play into a troll's hands?

No. DH appears to be surrendering and pooh-poohing the idea of
killfiling a troll.


Not so at all. Please re-read the following line from my post on the
issue;

Personally I see no problem whatsoever in allowing troll posts to be
handled as individuals see fit.

Is there something about this comment you don't understand?

Trolls and just who is and isn't a troll are subject to individual
interpretation as such. Therefore it is simply my opinion that any
action taken to "handle" or "not handle" these people should simply be
left to the individual to decide.

If kill filing someone is your thing, by all means have at it.
Personally I find people who constantly gripe and **** and moan about
who's top posting, bottom posting, and insertion posting, and taking
people to task on this issue the perfect troll on any newsgroup!


Ah, they are indeed the fertile grounds by which the successful troll
can plant the seeds fo discontent.

but the term troll is actually fairly well defined. It's gotten blurred
considerably by newbies shouting "troll!" at various k00ks, lamers and
other newbies over the years.

Anthony could be a troll, but I doubt it. He's really just looking to
show how smart he is, which is a bit of a strange thing for an idiot to
do when you think about it. It's kind of a Catch 22 for him, really.He's
too dumb to know how dumb he actually is,
This makes him a k00k in usenet parlance,though, not a troll.
I, OTOH, am a troll, though I'm not really operating in full troll mode
here at all. I don't really like to disrupt really useful groups and
this is definitely a really useful group. A lot of alt. goups, like
alt.disasters.aviation, for instance, were so top heavy with kooks
they're a troll's paradise. It's so easy to get an absolute riot going
in a place like that it's just brilliant.

Other opportunities present themselves from time to time where you get
someone that's just aching for a ****ing contest and is so ready to take
troll bait that it all ends in a frenzy that has to be seen to be
believed. These opportunities don't come along as often as they used to,
unfortunately, but still, there's some fun to be had.
In my days as a troll, I've mightely upset some nazis ( who actually
took it real life and painted a swastika on another troll's house) got
the governemnt of New Zealand ****ed off ( google my name and new
zealand for the newspaper story on that) and drove Ralphie Livingston
into a frothing frenzy daily for years on end.

Those were the days.


Bertie


If you're interested in becoming as troll, BTW, I will consider running
a corespondence course.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Anthony could be a troll, but I doubt it. He's really just looking to
show how smart he is,

You say that like it's a bad thing or something!

Jim Logajan wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Anthony could be a troll, but I doubt it. He's really just looking to
show how smart he is,

You say that like it's a bad thing or something!


No, i@m saying it's a folly since he's an idiot

Bertie

Jim Logajan wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Anthony could be a troll, but I doubt it. He's really just looking to
show how smart he is,

You say that like it's a bad thing or something!

There are many acceptable ways to demonstrate how smart you are. Almost
every one of these ways involve actually being as smart as you believe
you are. :-)
Demonstrating one's "smartness" with authority in a venue where you are
totally unqualified to speak with authority is I believe the issue
Bertie is discussing here....not to mention the simple fact that what
this person posts with authority is incorrect most of the time.

--
Dudley Henriques

Anthony could be a troll, but I doubt it. He's really just looking to
show how smart he is,

You say that like it's a bad thing or something!

It is not a bad thing if you have an iota worth of a brain. Problem is that
he is totally socially inept, has given enough of an insight to his
personalities that he is probably clinically definable with a couple
different psychological disorders, and tries to act like he is smart in
areas of knowledge that he is considerably unfamiliar with. I could start
bringing up some of the top ten stupid questions and statements he has made,
but that is unnecessary to those that have even slightly paid attention to
his posts.

That makes him a dumb ass, in my book. One that needs outside help, no
doubt.

If you don't know something, you should ask questions, find the answers on
your own that you can find, and learn from others that are knowledgeable in
the area you are seeking answers. Instead, he argues with everything, and
declares the experts with the answers as fallible, and explains why what he
says is correct, even though it is exactly opposite of the accepted
knowledge.

I _will_ change my designation of him, from now on, to an internet k00k,
based on classification advice given by the professional troll, Bertie.
What he said made sense to me.

He still needs to be ignored, and encouraged to practice his "k00kedness"
elsewhere, though. (IMHO)
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in
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Anthony could be a troll, but I doubt it. He's really just looking
to show how smart he is,

You say that like it's a bad thing or something!

It is not a bad thing if you have an iota worth of a brain. Problem
is that he is totally socially inept, has given enough of an insight
to his personalities that he is probably clinically definable with a
couple different psychological disorders, and tries to act like he is
smart in areas of knowledge that he is considerably unfamiliar with.
I could start bringing up some of the top ten stupid questions and
statements he has made, but that is unnecessary to those that have
even slightly paid attention to his posts.

That makes him a dumb ass, in my book. One that needs outside help,
no doubt.

If you don't know something, you should ask questions, find the
answers on your own that you can find, and learn from others that are
knowledgeable in the area you are seeking answers. Instead, he argues
with everything, and declares the experts with the answers as
fallible, and explains why what he says is correct, even though it is
exactly opposite of the accepted knowledge.

I _will_ change my designation of him, from now on, to an internet
k00k, based on classification advice given by the professional troll,
Bertie. What he said made sense to me.

He still needs to be ignored, and encouraged to practice his
"k00kedness" elsewhere, though. (IMHO)


Yeah, ignoring him can work, but that never happens. Believe me.

If you don't like messign with him, then just ignore him yourself.
I can tell you this for free, though. If I was trolling this whole
group, I'd also be provoking you and anyone else who was continuously
crying about the presence of a troll. Anyone emotive is a godsend to a
troll. Anyone emotive about trolling even more so. A troll can wreak
havoc by provoking these sorts of personalities. This, of course, brings
more people into the fray and pretty soon it;s reached critical mass
with the topic of the group gone forever and the group only exising as a
giant rat hill with the occupants eventaully consuming each other.

I like to think I could have shown Osama Bin Laden a thing or two,
(strictly on a professional troll level, ignoring politics, of course)
but I doubt it.
Anthony hasn't got a hope in hell and he doesn't even know it.
The best thing about a k00k like him is you can tell him exactly what
your game is and it makes no difference one way or another to them.

Bertie

I did some time ago offer the DSM (Diagnositic and Statistical Manual)
as the authoritive reference we shrinks use for characterizing mental
illness.

Often pathological labels are applied if a subject exhibits perhaps 5
of 8 different traits. Mr Mx presents as having more than enough to
earn several labels -- but troll is not (yet) considered a
pathological condition.

It's not nice to use technical language in a lay group, but some
things do not translate into plain English well so you'll have to put
up with it. "Loser" and "Nutty as a fruit cake" are the
characterizatrions I'd use. You can ask your personal psychologists to
translate them.

I know it's common here to question professional reference books, but
we need to use the DSM to get paid -- that's good enough for most of
us.

Tina wrote in news:1191727340.617845.323680
@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

I did some time ago offer the DSM (Diagnositic and Statistical Manual)
as the authoritive reference we shrinks use for characterizing mental
illness.

Often pathological labels are applied if a subject exhibits perhaps 5
of 8 different traits. Mr Mx presents as having more than enough to
earn several labels -- but troll is not (yet) considered a
pathological condition.

It's not nice to use technical language in a lay group, but some
things do not translate into plain English well so you'll have to put
up with it. "Loser" and "Nutty as a fruit cake" are the
characterizatrions I'd use. You can ask your personal psychologists to
translate them.

I know it's common here to question professional reference books, but
we need to use the DSM to get paid -- that's good enough for most of
us.

I'm not that interested in Pidgeonholing him, but I think he certainly
dispays more than a few midly autistic tendencies. Whatever else may be
wrong with him, he's organically predisposed towards this sort of behaviour
(as opposed to having had his nose rubbed in his diapers for toilet
training, though I wouldn't dismiss that sceanrio out of hand either)

I am curious, though. I know the left /right brain thing is a bit
simplistic, but what did you make of my post on that?
Or is it outside your area?


Bertie

Tina writes:

I did some time ago offer the DSM (Diagnositic and Statistical Manual)
as the authoritive reference we shrinks use for characterizing mental
illness.

The DSM is subject to fashion, fads, and political correctness, just like
anything else.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Tina writes:

I did some time ago offer the DSM (Diagnositic and Statistical Manual)
as the authoritive reference we shrinks use for characterizing mental
illness.

The DSM is subject to fashion, fads, and political correctness, just like
anything else.


So you get to change category frequently! How nice for you!


Bertie