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  #1  
Old October 8th 07, 09:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Denny
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Default The Failure of FAA Diversity

On Oct 8, 4:35 pm, FAA Civil Rights wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"FAA Civil Rights" wrote in message
...
I guess the Diversity workforce in the FAA is working great huh??


I believe the first video mentions the word "Incompetency"


The same word I was chastised for using a few years ago by FAA Management


Maybe I was just a little ahead of my time perhaps?


What facility washed you out?


None.

I served with honors and awards my entire Government career.
But the once proud organization I loved has turned to ****
and I had to go. Just like many others are doing everyday.
The FAA and Federal Government is out of control and being
ruined by politically correct tyranny and bad management.

The links speak for themselves. They are the tip of the
iceberg of a failed Government agency.

Today it is record airline delays with a record low employee
morale and disgruntled workforce

Soon it will be body bags and unrecognizable human remains

Soon


Hmmm, just like the post office... Maybe it is that gov't service
attracts a certain type of person, rather than the job being the
cause, hmmmm?

denny

  #2  
Old October 9th 07, 05:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default The Failure of FAA Diversity

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:40:34 -0700, Denny wrote
in .com:

On Oct 8, 4:35 pm, FAA Civil Rights wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"FAA Civil Rights" wrote in message
...
I guess the Diversity workforce in the FAA is working great huh??


I believe the first video mentions the word "Incompetency"


The same word I was chastised for using a few years ago by FAA Management


Maybe I was just a little ahead of my time perhaps?


What facility washed you out?


None.

I served with honors and awards my entire Government career.
But the once proud organization I loved has turned to ****
and I had to go. Just like many others are doing everyday.
The FAA and Federal Government is out of control and being
ruined by politically correct tyranny and bad management.

The links speak for themselves. They are the tip of the
iceberg of a failed Government agency.

Today it is record airline delays with a record low employee
morale and disgruntled workforce

Soon it will be body bags and unrecognizable human remains

Soon


Hmmm, just like the post office... Maybe it is that gov't service
attracts a certain type of person, rather than the job being the
cause, hmmmm?

denny


The fact that the FAA gives veterans a 5% boost in their score on the
civil servant examinations, and veterans with a Purple Heart 10%,
seems to show that the FAA values past service higher than competence.

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Old October 9th 07, 08:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default The Failure of FAA Diversity

Larry Dighera wrote in
:

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:40:34 -0700, Denny wrote
in .com:

On Oct 8, 4:35 pm, FAA Civil Rights wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"FAA Civil Rights" wrote in message
...
I guess the Diversity workforce in the FAA is working great huh??

I believe the first video mentions the word "Incompetency"

The same word I was chastised for using a few years ago by FAA
Management

Maybe I was just a little ahead of my time perhaps?

What facility washed you out?

None.

I served with honors and awards my entire Government career.
But the once proud organization I loved has turned to ****
and I had to go. Just like many others are doing everyday.
The FAA and Federal Government is out of control and being
ruined by politically correct tyranny and bad management.

The links speak for themselves. They are the tip of the
iceberg of a failed Government agency.

Today it is record airline delays with a record low employee
morale and disgruntled workforce

Soon it will be body bags and unrecognizable human remains

Soon


Hmmm, just like the post office... Maybe it is that gov't service
attracts a certain type of person, rather than the job being the
cause, hmmmm?

denny


The fact that the FAA gives veterans a 5% boost in their score on the
civil servant examinations, and veterans with a Purple Heart 10%,
seems to show that the FAA values past service higher than competence.



True. I took the ATC exam once and thought this terribly unfair. Until I
met the applicants and thought that they didn;t give them nearly
enough...


Bertie


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Old October 9th 07, 02:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:32:30 +0000 (UTC), emboldened by anonymity,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
:

True. I took the ATC exam once and thought this terribly unfair. Until I
met the applicants and thought that they didn;t give them nearly
enough...


I can understand your feelings, but is the FAA a charity organization
or a performance based organization? Both you say? If the blanket
test score increases granted veterans and wounded US solders isn't
limited to tests for positions that do not affect flight safety, I see
charity as anathema for performance. There is no question that
charity-based hiring undermines performance, IMO.

Is it appropriate to lower personnel performance standards, that
affect all who fly from airline passengers to airmen, in the name of
charity? IMNSHO, charity is a noble human trait, but charity, and the
emotion upon which it is based, have no place in matters of life and
death that affect millions. As an airman, surely you can appreciate
this.

It would behove the government to find a more appropriate means of
compensating those who have formally served their country, that
wouldn't potentially lower flight safety. When emotion (or religion)
trump pragmatism, the results are often less than optimal.

  #5  
Old October 9th 07, 02:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Larry Dighera wrote in
:

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:32:30 +0000 (UTC), emboldened by anonymity,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
:

True. I took the ATC exam once and thought this terribly unfair. Until

I
met the applicants and thought that they didn;t give them nearly
enough...


I can understand your feelings, but is the FAA a charity organization
or a performance based organization? Both you say? If the blanket
test score increases granted veterans and wounded US solders isn't
limited to tests for positions that do not affect flight safety, I see
charity as anathema for performance. There is no question that
charity-based hiring undermines performance, IMO.

Is it appropriate to lower personnel performance standards, that
affect all who fly from airline passengers to airmen, in the name of
charity? IMNSHO, charity is a noble human trait, but charity, and the
emotion upon which it is based, have no place in matters of life and
death that affect millions. As an airman, surely you can appreciate
this.

It would behove the government to find a more appropriate means of
compensating those who have formally served their country, that
wouldn't potentially lower flight safety. When emotion (or religion)
trump pragmatism, the results are often less than optimal.



Oh I didn't mind. Liek i said, the applicants I should have been given
50% extra just for geting their names right. Even then they didn't have
a snowball's chance in hell.

At least the higher score would have made them feel better. Well, at
least the few that could have spelled their names right and realised
that a 52 was abigger number than a 2

seriously, there were some dumb people there.


Bertie
  #6  
Old October 9th 07, 02:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
FAA Civil Rights
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Default The Failure of FAA Diversity

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:32:30 +0000 (UTC), emboldened by anonymity,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
:

True. I took the ATC exam once and thought this terribly unfair. Until I
met the applicants and thought that they didn;t give them nearly
enough...


I can understand your feelings, but is the FAA a charity organization
or a performance based organization? Both you say? If the blanket
test score increases granted veterans and wounded US solders isn't
limited to tests for positions that do not affect flight safety, I see
charity as anathema for performance. There is no question that
charity-based hiring undermines performance, IMO.

Is it appropriate to lower personnel performance standards, that
affect all who fly from airline passengers to airmen, in the name of
charity? IMNSHO, charity is a noble human trait, but charity, and the
emotion upon which it is based, have no place in matters of life and
death that affect millions. As an airman, surely you can appreciate
this.

It would behove the government to find a more appropriate means of
compensating those who have formally served their country, that
wouldn't potentially lower flight safety. When emotion (or religion)
trump pragmatism, the results are often less than optimal.


Government "Diversity" Hiring and "Charity" Hiring should
read this powerful quote.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral
busybodies(Civil Rights and EEO empires).

The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity
may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for
our own good will torment us without end, for they do so
with the approval of their own conscience." ---C.S. Lewis









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Old October 9th 07, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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FAA Civil Rights wrote in
:

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:32:30 +0000 (UTC), emboldened by anonymity,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
:

True. I took the ATC exam once and thought this terribly unfair.
Until I met the applicants and thought that they didn;t give them
nearly enough...


I can understand your feelings, but is the FAA a charity organization
or a performance based organization? Both you say? If the blanket
test score increases granted veterans and wounded US solders isn't
limited to tests for positions that do not affect flight safety, I
see charity as anathema for performance. There is no question that
charity-based hiring undermines performance, IMO.

Is it appropriate to lower personnel performance standards, that
affect all who fly from airline passengers to airmen, in the name of
charity? IMNSHO, charity is a noble human trait, but charity, and
the emotion upon which it is based, have no place in matters of life
and death that affect millions. As an airman, surely you can
appreciate this.

It would behove the government to find a more appropriate means of
compensating those who have formally served their country, that
wouldn't potentially lower flight safety. When emotion (or religion)
trump pragmatism, the results are often less than optimal.


Government "Diversity" Hiring and "Charity" Hiring should
read this powerful quote.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral
busybodies(Civil Rights and EEO empires).

The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity
may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for
our own good will torment us without end, for they do so
with the approval of their own conscience." ---C.S. Lewis



Lewis Carrol, more like.


Bertie









  #8  
Old October 9th 07, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
FAA Civil Rights
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Default The Failure of FAA Diversity

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:32:30 +0000 (UTC), emboldened by anonymity,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
:

True. I took the ATC exam once and thought this terribly unfair. Until I
met the applicants and thought that they didn;t give them nearly
enough...


I can understand your feelings, but is the FAA a charity organization
or a performance based organization? Both you say? If the blanket
test score increases granted veterans and wounded US solders isn't
limited to tests for positions that do not affect flight safety, I see
charity as anathema for performance. There is no question that
charity-based hiring undermines performance, IMO.

Is it appropriate to lower personnel performance standards, that
affect all who fly from airline passengers to airmen, in the name of
charity? IMNSHO, charity is a noble human trait, but charity, and the
emotion upon which it is based, have no place in matters of life and
death that affect millions. As an airman, surely you can appreciate
this.

It would behove the government to find a more appropriate means of
compensating those who have formally served their country, that
wouldn't potentially lower flight safety. When emotion (or religion)
trump pragmatism, the results are often less than optimal.

Government "Diversity" Hiring and "Charity" Hiring should
read this powerful quote.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral
busybodies(Civil Rights and EEO empires).

The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity
may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for
our own good will torment us without end, for they do so
with the approval of their own conscience." ---C.S. Lewis




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Old October 9th 07, 03:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

I can understand your feelings, but is the FAA a charity organization
or a performance based organization? Both you say? If the blanket
test score increases granted veterans and wounded US solders isn't
limited to tests for positions that do not affect flight safety, I see
charity as anathema for performance. There is no question that
charity-based hiring undermines performance, IMO.

Is it appropriate to lower personnel performance standards, that
affect all who fly from airline passengers to airmen, in the name of
charity? IMNSHO, charity is a noble human trait, but charity, and the
emotion upon which it is based, have no place in matters of life and
death that affect millions. As an airman, surely you can appreciate
this.

It would behove the government to find a more appropriate means of
compensating those who have formally served their country, that
wouldn't potentially lower flight safety. When emotion (or religion)
trump pragmatism, the results are often less than optimal.


It's not the FAA that gives veterans preference points, it's the federal
government.


  #10  
Old October 9th 07, 04:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:14:05 -0500, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in
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It's not the FAA that gives veterans preference points, it's the federal
government.


Perhaps there should be some exclusions implemented for those jobs
that have potential life-safety impact.
 




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