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Old October 10th 07, 04:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jay Honeck writes:

There are many intangibles about working a position like this that
make things worthwhile, however. Entry level positions are, to a
large degree, like school. You're learning skills while getting paid,
and -- in the end -- you should come out much more qualified for your
next job.


That would depend on the job. Today, well-paid jobs usually require skills
that no poorly-paid job will provide--which is why poorly-paid jobs pay
poorly, and well-paid jobs pay well. If one could prepare for a lucrative job
by taking a minimum-wage job, people would be falling over themselves trying
to get the minimum-wage jobs.

Today, not even an expensive stint at college prepares a person for a
lucrative job.

Finding an employee who understands and appreciates this fact is, as
always, a trick. Most people don't plan their lives farther than
their next paycheck.


Younger generations have grown up with such uncertainty and rapid change that
planning ahead may not seem cost-effective.
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Old October 10th 07, 08:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote:

Today, well-paid jobs usually require skills
that no poorly-paid job will provide--which is why poorly-paid jobs pay
poorly, and well-paid jobs pay well.


Brilliant. How does he come up with this stuff?


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Dan

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-Chief Inspector Dreyfus


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Old October 10th 07, 11:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Mxsmanic" wrote:

Today, well-paid jobs usually require skills
that no poorly-paid job will provide--which is why poorly-paid jobs pay
poorly, and well-paid jobs pay well.


Brilliant. How does he come up with this stuff?

My guess is LSD.


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Old October 11th 07, 07:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Brilliant. How does he come up with this stuff?


My guess is LSD.


Nope. He should be on one (or more) of a number of drugs meant to help
people with serious psychological disorders. Seriously.
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Jim in NC


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Old October 10th 07, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip
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On 10 Oct, 16:05, Mxsmanic wrote:
Jay Honeck writes:
There are many intangibles about working a position like this that
make things worthwhile, however. Entry level positions are, to a
large degree, like school. You're learning skills while getting paid,
and -- in the end -- you should come out much more qualified for your
next job.


That would depend on the job. Today, well-paid jobs usually require skills
that no poorly-paid job will provide--which is why poorly-paid jobs pay
poorly, and well-paid jobs pay well. If one could prepare for a lucrative job
by taking a minimum-wage job, people would be falling over themselves trying
to get the minimum-wage jobs.

Today, not even an expensive stint at college prepares a person for a
lucrative job.


Not that you'll ever have any job..


Finding an employee who understands and appreciates this fact is, as
always, a trick. Most people don't plan their lives farther than
their next paycheck.


Younger generations have grown up with such uncertainty and rapid change that
planning ahead may not seem cost-effective.



Oh brother.

Bertie

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Old October 11th 07, 01:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Younger generations have grown up with such uncertainty and rapid change that
planning ahead may not seem cost-effective.


Oh brother.


What's funny is how this statement illustrates a complete lack of
historical knowledge.

Let's talk about "uncertainty". My dad graduated from high school in
1937 -- the depths of the Depression. He did whatever it took to
survive, including selling West Bend pots and pans door to door. (He
would cook a complete meal for a family, just to get in the door.
While cooking, he would tout the fantastic nature of the pots and
pans, and he did well...)

"Planning ahead" meant wondering if you'd eat on Friday. There was
no "welfare" -- only your wits.

When I graduated from college in 1981, inflation and interest rates
were at all-time highs. It made NO sense to save money, since it was
devaluing at 12% per year. Jobs were few, unemployment was
staggeringly high (by today's standards) -- yet we somehow managed to
survive and prosper.

"Certainty" in a free market economy is a pipe dream. Uncertainty is
what makes the system work, as it makes sure that everything and
everyone is operating at peak efficiency. You want certainty? Check
out Communism, and the collapse thereof.

History is full of the failures of these "certain" utopian economic
systems. (For one very close to my home, check out the history of
"the Amana Colonies" -- a communal system that existed here in Iowa
until the 1930s...)

Is it easy? Hell, no! But thanks to the free market system, we are
able to enjoy a standard of living that my father couldn't have
imagined back in 1937.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old October 11th 07, 06:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Jay Honeck wrote in
ups.com:

Younger generations have grown up with such uncertainty and rapid
change that planning ahead may not seem cost-effective.


Oh brother.


What's funny is how this statement illustrates a complete lack of
historical knowledge.

Let's talk about "uncertainty". My dad graduated from high school in
1937 -- the depths of the Depression. He did whatever it took to
survive, including selling West Bend pots and pans door to door. (He
would cook a complete meal for a family, just to get in the door.
While cooking, he would tout the fantastic nature of the pots and
pans, and he did well...)

"Planning ahead" meant wondering if you'd eat on Friday. There was
no "welfare" -- only your wits.

When I graduated from college in 1981, inflation and interest rates
were at all-time highs. It made NO sense to save money, since it was
devaluing at 12% per year. Jobs were few, unemployment was
staggeringly high (by today's standards) -- yet we somehow managed to
survive and prosper.

"Certainty" in a free market economy is a pipe dream. Uncertainty is
what makes the system work, as it makes sure that everything and
everyone is operating at peak efficiency. You want certainty? Check
out Communism, and the collapse thereof.

History is full of the failures of these "certain" utopian economic
systems. (For one very close to my home, check out the history of
"the Amana Colonies" -- a communal system that existed here in Iowa
until the 1930s...)

Is it easy? Hell, no! But thanks to the free market system, we are
able to enjoy a standard of living that my father couldn't have
imagined back in 1937.


Well, for now!

Bertie

 




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