Does VFR Operation Require A High Level Of Language Proficiency?

The usual answer, it depends.
Flying from farm strips, staying out of busy airspace and the like not
a problem without (good)communication.
Operating from a busy field with ground, twr, approach freq. and in
controled airspace I think having good communication is rather
important, even for VFR.

I'd agree. Some years ago I flew out of a busy Class C airport. Those
were the days when there were lots of foreign students around -
some of whom had a rather limited command of English. It sure threw a
monkey wrench into the works when one of them showed up.

David Johnson

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Dave wrote:

The usual answer, it depends.
Flying from farm strips, staying out of busy airspace and the like not
a problem without (good)communication.
Operating from a busy field with ground, twr, approach freq. and in
controled airspace I think having good communication is rather
important, even for VFR.

I'd agree. Some years ago I flew out of a busy Class C airport. Those
were the days when there were lots of foreign students around -
some of whom had a rather limited command of English. It sure threw a
monkey wrench into the works when one of them showed up.

David Johnson

On the other hand, airline pilots the world over manage to get by with only
a limited command of English, and the do it in the most hectic airspace you
can imagine. The secret is that ATC communications use a limited
vocabulary of words and phrases (listed in the pilot-controller glossary).

In many ways, flying an airliner into JFK during the afternoon rush is an
easier communication situation than doing pattern work at East Podunk.

Roy Smith writes:

On the other hand, airline pilots the world over manage to get by with only
a limited command of English, and the do it in the most hectic airspace you
can imagine.

That isn't entirely true. Often they are simply lucky, and the guesses made
by both pilot and controller alike, due to inadequate English skills on the
part of one part of the other, just happen to be correct.

The secret is that ATC communications use a limited
vocabulary of words and phrases (listed in the pilot-controller glossary).

The "secret" is that habit makes it easier to make a lucky guess.
Unfortunately gambling isn't entirely reliable, by definition.

In many ways, flying an airliner into JFK during the afternoon rush is an
easier communication situation than doing pattern work at East Podunk.

Which ways?

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Roy Smith writes:

On the other hand, airline pilots the world over manage to get by
with only a limited command of English, and the do it in the most
hectic airspace you can imagine.

That isn't entirely true. Often they are simply lucky, and the
guesses made by both pilot and controller alike, due to inadequate
English skills on the part of one part of the other, just happen to be
correct.

Bullshti.

You have no idea what you;re talking about.


Not surprising since oyu don't fly.


Bertie

On Oct 11, 8:09 pm, Roy Smith wrote:

On the other hand, airline pilots the world over manage to get by with only
a limited command of English, and the do it in the most hectic airspace you
can imagine. The secret is that ATC communications use a limited
vocabulary of words and phrases (listed in the pilot-controller glossary).

They may not be as successful as you think. This has become a
political issue lately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob7mc8gIyrE

-Robert

Dave wrote:

I'd agree. Some years ago I flew out of a busy Class C airport. Those
were the days when there were lots of foreign students around -
some of whom had a rather limited command of English.

You can hear that in New York. G