Israeli Stealth???

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(Denyav) wrote:

How convenient

Cuts both ways,it should also be very convenient to put 1500 tons of documents
under lock for 75 years and making claims .

It's really much more of a "since we have these superplanes, why didn't
we use them against the Soviets in the 1950s through 1980s?"

All of the evidence says it's just another "Germans/Russians invented
everything first" fantasy by some national supremacists.

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All of the evidence says it's just another "Germans/Russians invented
everything first" fantasy by some national supremacists.

Unfortunately the current ethnical make-up of faculty and researchers in
prestigious US institutions,inc Ivy League ones,seems to prove the assertions
of those "supremacists".

If you cannot produce your own home grown scientific talent,you have to depend
on stolen technology and imported talent.
period

In article ,
(Denyav) wrote:

All of the evidence says it's just another "Germans/Russians invented
everything first" fantasy by some national supremacists.

Unfortunately the current ethnical make-up of faculty and researchers in
prestigious US institutions,inc Ivy League ones,seems to prove the assertions
of those "supremacists".

Well, we *do* allow people in from all over, while still generating a
lot of skilled folks in-country.

On the other hand, folks like Russia are scraping along trying to pay
their researchers, while power companies are cutting off electricity to
military bases for not paying their bills...

If you cannot produce your own home grown scientific talent,you have to depend
on stolen technology and imported talent.

Thank heavens we still produce most of the best folks here.

Although I'm sure we could find you a job at a McDonald's, if you ever
decide to immigrate.

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Well, we *do* allow people in from all over, while still generating a
lot of skilled folks in-country.

We do allow people in because US system could and would not produce top notch
scientists.
US system is designed to produce scientific counterparts of Henry Ford's
workers,in other words "standardized minds".
Anything beyond "standardized mind" production is too dangerous for the
"establisment".

On the other hand, folks like Russia are scraping along trying to pay
their researchers, while power companies are cutting off electricity to
military bases for not paying thei

Thats true.but at least they were capable of producing top notch scientists.
BTW Nations that could produce top notch classical music composers,not rappers,
could also produce top notch scientists.

Thank heavens we still produce most of the best folks here.

Although I'm sure we could find you a job at a McDonald's, if you ever
decide to immigrate.

Interesting,I am here but I unfortunately do not work McDonalds,if you wanna
make a reality check for yourself,please visit a College or hi-tech company
near to you,you will see more Indians,Chinese and East Europeans than Americans
and they the ones that doing something other than producing paperwork.

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(Denyav) wrote:

Well, we *do* allow people in from all over, while still generating a
lot of skilled folks in-country.

We do allow people in because US system could and would not produce top notch
scientists.

Except for the ones we *do* produce, of course. Like the two US-born
and trained scientists who just won the Nobel for chemistry. Or the guy
who shared the prize for medicine for inventing the MRI.

About *half* of the Nobel prizes in physics for the last half-century
have gone to guys who were born and raised in the "pitiful" US (or born
elsewhere and raised here).

The Europeans had a big advantage a hundred years ago, but they seem to
have ****ed most of it away.

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About *half* of the Nobel prizes in physics for the last half-century
have gone to guys who were born and raised in the "pitiful" US (or born
elsewhere and raised here).

True and thats the reason why last half 0f 20th Century is called the Ice Age
of physics.
Among crowd of US Nobel laurates (technicians according to Hawking) only Murray
Gell Mann is in the same league with the all time starts of physics.

Strange, in spite of plenty of US nobel laurates we still use theories
developed by some others almost one hundred years ago.
(BTW many of US nobel laurates are the experimentalists that proved the
theories of others were correct)

There is quality and quantity issue even in Nobel prizes,US excels everywhere
when you judge only by quantity.


The Europeans had a big advantage a hundred years ago, but they seem to
have ****ed most of it away.

They are back big time again,they are going to rewrite century old laws of
physics,after they do it our technicians can continue to collect Nobel prizes
by proving that they are right.

In article ,
(Denyav) wrote:

About *half* of the Nobel prizes in physics for the last half-century
have gone to guys who were born and raised in the "pitiful" US (or born
elsewhere and raised here).

True and thats the reason why last half 0f 20th Century is called the Ice Age
of physics.

....because the reat of the world is being frozen out, of course.

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