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cavelamb himself wrote: Dan wrote: Morgans wrote: "Dan" wrote Mine reads to + 30º. I am finishing out an instrument panel for an airplane I will never be able to afford to complete. My own design. Hmmm, interesting. Now that our curiosity is aroused, care to tell us more? Planform, construction materials/methods, approximate performance parameters, locomotion, how many places? So many questions! ;-)) 1/2 scale A-10, aluminum, Vne 350ish, range on internal fuel at 75% approximately 400 miles, ducted fan (7,000 rpm-ish), 1 place. It started as an mind exercise based on my headroom requirements not being available in any homebuilt design plus A-10 being a rather neat aircraft. I'm not going to build it because I will probably never get my medical back, but I make sub assemblies for the fun of it. I have made two main instrument panels for it, one IFR the other VFR. It's occupational therapy ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired I thought about building a cockpit simulator - for similar reasons. Decided to go sailing instead. But I certainly understand... Richard Sailing has its advantages not the least of which is no FAA. I haven't been sailing in decades, maybe I should build a boat instead. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired if you want to build, build. If you want to fly, buy. Works the same with boats. |
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cavelamb himself wrote:
Dan wrote: cavelamb himself wrote: Dan wrote: Morgans wrote: "Dan" wrote Mine reads to + 30º. I am finishing out an instrument panel for an airplane I will never be able to afford to complete. My own design. Hmmm, interesting. Now that our curiosity is aroused, care to tell us more? Planform, construction materials/methods, approximate performance parameters, locomotion, how many places? So many questions! ;-)) 1/2 scale A-10, aluminum, Vne 350ish, range on internal fuel at 75% approximately 400 miles, ducted fan (7,000 rpm-ish), 1 place. It started as an mind exercise based on my headroom requirements not being available in any homebuilt design plus A-10 being a rather neat aircraft. I'm not going to build it because I will probably never get my medical back, but I make sub assemblies for the fun of it. I have made two main instrument panels for it, one IFR the other VFR. It's occupational therapy ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired I thought about building a cockpit simulator - for similar reasons. Decided to go sailing instead. But I certainly understand... Richard Sailing has its advantages not the least of which is no FAA. I haven't been sailing in decades, maybe I should build a boat instead. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired if you want to build, build. If you want to fly, buy. Works the same with boats. See? There you go being practical again. I have plans for 12 - 16 foot sailboats. Maybe you can buy me a 42 footer for my birthday, it's 1 November ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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cavelamb himself wrote: Dan wrote: cavelamb himself wrote: Dan wrote: Morgans wrote: "Dan" wrote Mine reads to + 30º. I am finishing out an instrument panel for an airplane I will never be able to afford to complete. My own design. Hmmm, interesting. Now that our curiosity is aroused, care to tell us more? Planform, construction materials/methods, approximate performance parameters, locomotion, how many places? So many questions! ;-)) 1/2 scale A-10, aluminum, Vne 350ish, range on internal fuel at 75% approximately 400 miles, ducted fan (7,000 rpm-ish), 1 place. It started as an mind exercise based on my headroom requirements not being available in any homebuilt design plus A-10 being a rather neat aircraft. I'm not going to build it because I will probably never get my medical back, but I make sub assemblies for the fun of it. I have made two main instrument panels for it, one IFR the other VFR. It's occupational therapy ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired I thought about building a cockpit simulator - for similar reasons. Decided to go sailing instead. But I certainly understand... Richard Sailing has its advantages not the least of which is no FAA. I haven't been sailing in decades, maybe I should build a boat instead. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired if you want to build, build. If you want to fly, buy. Works the same with boats. See? There you go being practical again. I have plans for 12 - 16 foot sailboats. Maybe you can buy me a 42 footer for my birthday, it's 1 November ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Get a smaller boat to start with. They are a lot more fun and a whole lot less hassle. (and a whole lot less expensive!) I might offer to sell my Catalina 18 for your birthday. But ONLY because I have a lead on a Catalina 30. ![]() http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm Richard, U.S. Navy, retired |
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cavelamb himself wrote:
Dan wrote: cavelamb himself wrote: Dan wrote: cavelamb himself wrote: Dan wrote: Morgans wrote: "Dan" wrote Mine reads to + 30º. I am finishing out an instrument panel for an airplane I will never be able to afford to complete. My own design. Hmmm, interesting. Now that our curiosity is aroused, care to tell us more? Planform, construction materials/methods, approximate performance parameters, locomotion, how many places? So many questions! ;-)) 1/2 scale A-10, aluminum, Vne 350ish, range on internal fuel at 75% approximately 400 miles, ducted fan (7,000 rpm-ish), 1 place. It started as an mind exercise based on my headroom requirements not being available in any homebuilt design plus A-10 being a rather neat aircraft. I'm not going to build it because I will probably never get my medical back, but I make sub assemblies for the fun of it. I have made two main instrument panels for it, one IFR the other VFR. It's occupational therapy ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired I thought about building a cockpit simulator - for similar reasons. Decided to go sailing instead. But I certainly understand... Richard Sailing has its advantages not the least of which is no FAA. I haven't been sailing in decades, maybe I should build a boat instead. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired if you want to build, build. If you want to fly, buy. Works the same with boats. See? There you go being practical again. I have plans for 12 - 16 foot sailboats. Maybe you can buy me a 42 footer for my birthday, it's 1 November ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Get a smaller boat to start with. They are a lot more fun and a whole lot less hassle. (and a whole lot less expensive!) I might offer to sell my Catalina 18 for your birthday. But ONLY because I have a lead on a Catalina 30. ![]() http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm Richard, U.S. Navy, retired When I was in the Air Force I spent time at sea on Navy boats. My primary function seemed to be getting lost on board those things. I think I will stick to small boats. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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![]() "Dan" wrote When I was in the Air Force I spent time at sea on Navy boats. My primary function seemed to be getting lost on board those things. I think I will stick to small boats. If you want to dink around on inland lakes, a 16 or 19 foot is fine. If you want to sleep aboard or go out on the Great Lakes or the Oceans, you need to think in the 23 foot and up range. As far as the smaller ones being easy to sail on, my dad and I started on an O'day 25, and it was not hard at all. You might want to look into O'day if you are buying. Shoal draft, swing board keel, and not to hard to trailer with a 3/4 ton van or truck, with at least a 350 engine. I think you can find them with an inboard diesel, and that is the way to go. We started with an outboard, and we converted it to an inboard Yanmar diesel. Tricky, but my dad was an engineer, and we figured it out just fine. Plenty of room to sleep aboard, but I don't think you would want to live aboard for very long. You could, if it was just 2 people, and you put in some extras, though. I know what you mean about thinking of building a boat. The thought has crossed my mind more than once.;-) An airplane is more capable of getting to more places more rapidly, though! (required aviation componentg) -- Jim in NC |
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Morgans wrote:
"Dan" wrote When I was in the Air Force I spent time at sea on Navy boats. My primary function seemed to be getting lost on board those things. I think I will stick to small boats. If you want to dink around on inland lakes, a 16 or 19 foot is fine. If you want to sleep aboard or go out on the Great Lakes or the Oceans, you need to think in the 23 foot and up range. As far as the smaller ones being easy to sail on, my dad and I started on an O'day 25, and it was not hard at all. You might want to look into O'day if you are buying. Shoal draft, swing board keel, and not to hard to trailer with a 3/4 ton van or truck, with at least a 350 engine. I think you can find them with an inboard diesel, and that is the way to go. We started with an outboard, and we converted it to an inboard Yanmar diesel. Tricky, but my dad was an engineer, and we figured it out just fine. Plenty of room to sleep aboard, but I don't think you would want to live aboard for very long. You could, if it was just 2 people, and you put in some extras, though. I know what you mean about thinking of building a boat. The thought has crossed my mind more than once.;-) An airplane is more capable of getting to more places more rapidly, though! (required aviation componentg) I did some ocean sailing on a wood Sailfish when I was in high school. It was fun, but not recommended. I also did Hurricane Island Outward Bound way back before 'lectricity was invented. Those pulling boats were a gas. Back to aviation content: I still need the pin out for the indicator. I have no idea who made it so I can't contact the manufacturer. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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