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Old October 17th 07, 09:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
Henry J Cobb
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Default "Osprey may get turret-mounted machine gun"

Vince wrote:
David Lesher wrote:
Mike writes:

Osprey may get turret-mounted machine gun


http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/


Posted : Thursday Oct 11, 2007 15:11:37 EDT


Air Force and Marine Corps V-22 Ospreys may get a turret-mounted
machine gun, fulfilling a long-sought requirement for a forward-firing
defensive weapon and making it unique among today's U.S. transport
aircraft.



Strange no one is discussing how much such weighs; in an airframe already
short of payload...


and balance

its a side to side prop-rotor configuration

hang a thousand pounds on the chin and see what happens


It's belly, not chin mounted.

-HJC
Fact correcting Vince is endless fun.
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Old October 17th 07, 02:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
Vince
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Default "Osprey may get turret-mounted machine gun"

Henry J Cobb wrote:
Vince wrote:
David Lesher wrote:
Mike writes:

Osprey may get turret-mounted machine gun

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/

Posted : Thursday Oct 11, 2007 15:11:37 EDT

Air Force and Marine Corps V-22 Ospreys may get a
turret-mounted machine gun, fulfilling a long-sought
requirement for a forward-firing defensive weapon and making it
unique among today's U.S. transport aircraft.


Strange no one is discussing how much such weighs; in an airframe
already short of payload...


and balance

its a side to side prop-rotor configuration

hang a thousand pounds on the chin and see what happens


It's belly, not chin mounted.

-HJC Fact correcting Vince is endless fun.


You missed my point
you cant hang it on the chin, they tried and they found that out
it was the original concept even up to 2005.

Also under consideration is a redesign of the V-22’s nose to accommodate
a chin gun, Birkholz said. “It’s all do-able,” he said. “It’s just
expensive.”
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o.../V-22_Aims.htm

it wasn't doable

you can hang it on the belly at the center of lift,
that is where they put the cargo hook
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...ng_M777_lg.jpg


nothing is free

Vince
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Old October 17th 07, 04:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
Giles Ayling
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Default "Osprey may get turret-mounted machine gun"

Looking at the photo, they ahve alre\dy armed the Osprey with a lance - true
grass roots weaponry
"Vince" wrote in message
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Henry J Cobb wrote:
Vince wrote:
David Lesher wrote:
Mike writes:

Osprey may get turret-mounted machine gun

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/

Posted : Thursday Oct 11, 2007 15:11:37 EDT

Air Force and Marine Corps V-22 Ospreys may get a turret-mounted
machine gun, fulfilling a long-sought requirement for a forward-firing
defensive weapon and making it
unique among today's U.S. transport aircraft.


Strange no one is discussing how much such weighs; in an airframe
already short of payload...


and balance

its a side to side prop-rotor configuration

hang a thousand pounds on the chin and see what happens


It's belly, not chin mounted.

-HJC Fact correcting Vince is endless fun.


You missed my point
you cant hang it on the chin, they tried and they found that out
it was the original concept even up to 2005.

Also under consideration is a redesign of the V-22’s nose to accommodate
a chin gun, Birkholz said. “It’s all do-able,” he said. “It’s just
expensive.”
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o.../V-22_Aims.htm

it wasn't doable

you can hang it on the belly at the center of lift,
that is where they put the cargo hook
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...ng_M777_lg.jpg


nothing is free

Vince



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Old October 20th 07, 02:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
Henry J Cobb
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Default "Osprey may get turret-mounted machine gun"

Vince wrote:
Also under consideration is a redesign of the V-22’s nose to accommodate
a chin gun, Birkholz said. “It’s all do-able,” he said. “It’s just
expensive.”
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o.../V-22_Aims.htm

it wasn't doable

you can hang it on the belly at the center of lift,
that is where they put the cargo hook
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...ng_M777_lg.jpg


Delete the hook. Any mission that the V-22 can use the hook for the
H-53 series can do better.

For any mission that doesn't include a sling load the V-22 flies faster,
higher and further.

-HJC
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Old October 20th 07, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
Vince
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Default "Osprey may get turret-mounted machine gun"

Henry J Cobb wrote:
Vince wrote:
Also under consideration is a redesign of the V-22’s nose to accommodate
a chin gun, Birkholz said. “It’s all do-able,” he said. “It’s just
expensive.”
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o.../V-22_Aims.htm

it wasn't doable

you can hang it on the belly at the center of lift,
that is where they put the cargo hook
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...ng_M777_lg.jpg


Delete the hook. Any mission that the V-22 can use the hook for the
H-53 series can do better.

For any mission that doesn't include a sling load the V-22 flies faster,
higher and further.

-HJC


no it doesn't

Carry 5 tons as far as you can and drop it off

Carry 10 tons as far as you can and drop it off

Carry the biggest payload you want 200 miles

Who wins?

Vince




 




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