A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Military Aviation
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Final Word on Syrian/Iranian A/C



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old October 13th 03, 06:04 PM
David Joston
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

"Tom Cooper" wrote in message ...
David,

I do not consider any of Jane's publications as authoritative on the topic
of Iran: they are full of terrible mistakes, and most of their (and most of
those published elsewhere) articles and publications to the topic of Iran -
actually all of them - are completely wrong.

Tom Cooper

Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


Well, I don't see a "Tom Cooper's All the World's Aircraft 2003/2004"
edition anywhere. I'd like to know what your credentials are to make
such assertations?

A co-author of two books on Iranian a/c doesn't mean **** compared to
Jane's excellent reputation as the world's authority on aircraft.

Until you can prove otherwise, your comments make you sound like the
Al Gore of RAM.

BGX
  #2  
Old October 13th 03, 07:40 PM
Tarver Engineering
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"David Joston" wrote in message
om...
"Tom Cooper" wrote in message

...
David,

I do not consider any of Jane's publications as authoritative on the

topic
of Iran: they are full of terrible mistakes, and most of their (and most

of
those published elsewhere) articles and publications to the topic of

Iran -
actually all of them - are completely wrong.

Tom Cooper

Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


Well, I don't see a "Tom Cooper's All the World's Aircraft 2003/2004"
edition anywhere. I'd like to know what your credentials are to make
such assertations?


Once Janes published the Copp kook troll e-bomb nonsense from ram, they lost
any credibility they may have ever had.


  #3  
Old October 13th 03, 07:14 PM
phil hunt
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On 13 Oct 2003 10:04:48 -0700, David Joston wrote:

A co-author of two books on Iranian a/c doesn't mean **** compared to
Jane's excellent reputation as the world's authority on aircraft.


Do Jane's have an excellent reputation? My understanding is they
used to, but do they still?

--
"It's easier to find people online who openly support the KKK than
people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia
(My real email address would be if you added 275
to it and reversed the last two letters).


  #4  
Old October 13th 03, 08:48 PM
Tarver Engineering
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"phil hunt" wrote in message
. ..
On 13 Oct 2003 10:04:48 -0700, David Joston

wrote:

A co-author of two books on Iranian a/c doesn't mean **** compared to
Jane's excellent reputation as the world's authority on aircraft.


Do Jane's have an excellent reputation? My understanding is they
used to, but do they still?


I say Janes not knowing what EMP is puts them asleeep at the wheel for 40
years.


  #5  
Old October 13th 03, 08:55 PM
Paul J. Adam
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

In message , phil hunt
writes
On 13 Oct 2003 10:04:48 -0700, David Joston wrote:

A co-author of two books on Iranian a/c doesn't mean **** compared to
Jane's excellent reputation as the world's authority on aircraft.


Do Jane's have an excellent reputation? My understanding is they
used to, but do they still?


They're okay but not to be taken as Gospel.

--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk
  #6  
Old October 13th 03, 09:18 PM
Tom Cooper
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"David Joston" wrote in message
om...
"Tom Cooper" wrote in message

...
David,

I do not consider any of Jane's publications as authoritative on the

topic
of Iran: they are full of terrible mistakes, and most of their (and most

of
those published elsewhere) articles and publications to the topic of

Iran -
actually all of them - are completely wrong.

Tom Cooper

Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


Well, I don't see a "Tom Cooper's All the World's Aircraft 2003/2004"
edition anywhere. I'd like to know what your credentials are to make
such assertations?


Isn't your post and this question actually self-explaining?

A co-author of two books on Iranian a/c doesn't mean **** compared to
Jane's excellent reputation as the world's authority on aircraft.


OK. Then there were Su-25s in Iranian service already in 2001. Can you,
based on your holly Jane's, mention even one serial or tell us which unit
operates them and where are they stationed?

Oh, and, BTW, and what are your credentials?

Until you can prove otherwise, your comments make you sound like the
Al Gore of RAM.


Well, you do sound like Woody Allen already now.

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
final reserve fuel Tim Instrument Flight Rules 1 December 25th 04 11:46 PM
Sport Pilot Final Gilan Home Built 34 August 13th 04 03:20 PM
Oshkosh RAH RAP Frequencies (Final ... sort of) Jim Weir Home Built 4 July 22nd 04 03:38 PM
transitioning from instruments to visual landing on final Gerald Sylvester Instrument Flight Rules 24 May 5th 04 12:07 AM
RV-7a baggage area David Smith Home Built 32 December 15th 03 04:08 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.