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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil



 
 
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Old October 21st 07, 06:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
David G. Nagel
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Ray Andraka wrote:
Matt Barrow wrote:



How is the electricity generated?


by the grid or by a windmill at home. The energy is stored in
batteries, and in some cases batteries combined with super capacitors


Let's see:

Battery: Lead Acid--Lead/Sulphuric Acid
NICD--Nickle/Cadmimum
NIMH--Nickle/Metal Paste
LiON--Lithium

Capacitors: Various metals--Most poisonous

Windmill: Iron, Copper, Aluminum, misc other materials--Manufacturing of
which can be hazardous. Blades can interfer with bird flight.

Remote power generation: Coal and it's problems. Gas and it's problems.
Nuclear and IT'S problems. Hydro and it's problems.

Nothing is simple, clean and save.

Check the price of your corn flakes next time you fuel up with E85.


Dave N

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Old October 21st 07, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Morgans[_2_]
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"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.
--
Jim in NC


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Old October 22nd 07, 08:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
TheSmokingGnu
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Morgans wrote:
Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


There /is/ the relatively high expense of construction, the inevitable
destruction of at least some natural environment, the seeming rarity of
places suited for construction, the long distances from such locations
to major electrical connection points (cities, substations, etc.), local
community resistance to construction (NIMBY, mostly)...

TheSmokingGnu
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Old October 22nd 07, 09:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"TheSmokingGnu" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:
Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non
polluting, and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


There /is/ the relatively high expense of construction, the inevitable
destruction of at least some natural environment, the seeming rarity of
places suited for construction, the long distances from such locations to
major electrical connection points (cities, substations, etc.), local
community resistance to construction (NIMBY, mostly)...


Gads.

Really reaching, huh?
--
Jim in NC


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Old October 22nd 07, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.
--
Jim in NC

The baby fish of course!

Al G


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Old October 23rd 07, 07:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Roger (K8RI)
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:58:02 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


Lot of ecological side effects. Good for short term flood control, but
may cause problems long term. A lot depends on the area where the dam
is located.

Roger (K8RI)
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Old October 23rd 07, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:58:02 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


Lot of ecological side effects. Good for short term flood control, but
may cause problems long term. A lot depends on the area where the dam
is located.

What sort of "problems"?


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Old October 24th 07, 02:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2007-10-21 14:58:02 -0700, "Morgans" said:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


Here in the west there is considerable pressure to dismantle the dams
already in place. They are being blamed for weak salmon runs (as if
over-fishing and the recovery in the seal and sea lion population have
had nothing to do with it), concentration of heavy metals near the
dams, flooding of "critical habitat," and just about every other sin
people can think of.

There are environmentalists who believe that the worst possible thing
that could happen to the earth would be for someone to discover a
cheap, non-polluting source of energy.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old October 24th 07, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
news.verizon.net
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These are the same people who think that we should get rid of all the people
of the world except for a few hundred of their fellow believers.


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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On 2007-10-21 14:58:02 -0700, "Morgans" said:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non
polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


Here in the west there is considerable pressure to dismantle the dams
already in place. They are being blamed for weak salmon runs (as if
over-fishing and the recovery in the seal and sea lion population have had
nothing to do with it), concentration of heavy metals near the dams,
flooding of "critical habitat," and just about every other sin people can
think of.

There are environmentalists who believe that the worst possible thing that
could happen to the earth would be for someone to discover a cheap,
non-polluting source of energy.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


 




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