Microsoft FSX Real-Life Weather

On Oct 22, 1:05 pm, george wrote:
On Oct 23, 8:58 am, Mxsmanic wrote:



Jay Honeck writes:
While they were waiting, I set him up in our newly upgraded Kiwi
flight simulator (see it hehttp://www.alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm),
at their home airport. I knew he would want me to program in some
crosswind (to better simulate the landing at home) and while tinkering
I ran across a choice I had never used befo "Download real-time
winds and weather."

I clicked on it, not knowing what to expect. Well, quicker than I can
check ADDS weather, Flight Simulator X had gone on-line and downloaded
the current weather at their home airport. It then incorporated this
weather into the sim, and within moments our guest was getting tossed
around in real-life turbulence, fighting a stiff, 80-degree cross wind
to land -- at his very own airport -- EXACTLY like he was about to do
in "real life". Very cool!

I know there are those here who don't think sims are very useful, but
this new (to me) feature really enhances the overall experience. And
our pilot-guest certainly agreed!

This option exists in FS 2004 as well.

Jays Kiwi is a flight simulator that can be used by real live pilots
to enhance their real flying skills.
What you have is a game!

uh, the 'kiwi' is a metal frame with a computer screen and a joystick
attached.

On Oct 23, 10:17 am, buttman wrote:


Jays Kiwi is a flight simulator that can be used by real live pilots
to enhance their real flying skills.
What you have is a game!

uh, the 'kiwi' is a metal frame with a computer screen and a joystick
attached.

Yes. And?

It doesn't change.
mixedup is playing a game
Those who try the Kiwi appear to, in the main, be real live pilots.
Or do you think that a sim flight game player is a 'pilot' ?

george writes:

Yes. And?

And the same software drives the sim in both cases. It's the same "game."

Those who try the Kiwi appear to, in the main, be real live pilots.

Whether or not the sim is a game has nothing to do with the people using it
(or "playing the game"). If a six-year-old steps into a full-motion sim, that
doesn't turn the sim into a game.

Or do you think that a sim flight game player is a 'pilot' ?

Some are, some aren't. But that has nothing to do with the nature of the sim.

You're making a distinction that doesn't really exist. Better to be
controlled by reason than by emotion.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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george writes:

Yes. And?

And the same software drives the sim in both cases. It's the same
"game."

Those who try the Kiwi appear to, in the main, be real live pilots.

Whether or not the sim is a game has nothing to do with the people
using it (or "playing the game"). If a six-year-old steps into a
full-motion sim, that doesn't turn the sim into a game.


Maybe not, but if you stepped into a photo booth it would turn it into a
horror show.


Or do you think that a sim flight game player is a 'pilot' ?

Some are, some aren't. But that has nothing to do with the nature of
the sim.

You're making a distinction that doesn't really exist. Better to be
controlled by reason than by emotion.




You don't fly, therefore you can't say.

You will never fly.


Ever.

Bertie

On Oct 24, 5:56 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
Yes. And?

And the same software drives the sim in both cases. It's the same "game."

The difference is that the 'Kiwi' is populated by pilots who give each
other feedback on real life problems they have observed throughout
their flying careers both as PPL's and CPL's and testing the different
solutions possible in safety.

Those who try the Kiwi appear to, in the main, be real live pilots.

Whether or not the sim is a game has nothing to do with the people using it
(or "playing the game"). If a six-year-old steps into a full-motion sim, that
doesn't turn the sim into a game.

Bad simile.
For the 6 year old it -is- a game!
For trainee flight crew it is a full on 90 minute hour and for line
flight crew it is maintaining ratings, route famil and the constant
training/revision required..

george writes:

The difference is that the 'Kiwi' is populated by pilots who give each
other feedback on real life problems they have observed throughout
their flying careers both as PPL's and CPL's and testing the different
solutions possible in safety.

That's not a difference at all. You're confusing the user with the simulator.
The simulator is the same. No matter who uses the simulator, it will remain
the same. Therefore, if the simulator is adequate in one instance, it is also
adequate in another. It cannot be simultaneously good and bad.

For the 6 year old it -is- a game!

But not for everyone else.

If the user's opinion counts, then my set-up is a sim, since I consider it to
be so.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

george writes:

The difference is that the 'Kiwi' is populated by pilots who give
each other feedback on real life problems they have observed
throughout their flying careers both as PPL's and CPL's and testing
the different solutions possible in safety.

That's not a difference at all. You're confusing the user with the
simulator. The simulator is the same. No matter who uses the
simulator, it will remain the same. Therefore, if the simulator is
adequate in one instance, it is also adequate in another. It cannot
be simultaneously good and bad.

For the 6 year old it -is- a game!

But not for everyone else.


No, for you it's definitely something else



Bertie